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bluegatty
3d ago
Yes. There should be no doubt at who is culpable here.
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bluegatty
3d ago
I'm inclined to want to agree ... but that's not how it works with limited liability corps. At least we have laws for what OpenAI 'does' to others, in whatever form.
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bluegatty
3d ago
It's not 'under the carpet'. HF doesn't want to lay charges against OpenAI and it's totally reasonable. Now - they absolutely should have that right, and I think they do. The issues are 1) OAI it seems was not tryin
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3d ago
Tobacco companies 'liability' is completely different scenario. They were held responsible for basically misleading people, and that's 'complicated'. If OpenAI 'software' goes out and does something, it&
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3d ago
No ... there is no need for 'escaped containment', there are no 'agents'. That's just jargon. It's just software We have all the laws we need. If some company ended up doing some horrible thing, we would not
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bluegatty
3d ago
"This is not a serious article" - it's by Dr. Bengio - one of 3 so-called Godfather's of AI and Turing prize winner. He's definitely not 'pro SOTA' lab, he's kind of fighting against them. That said,
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bluegatty
4d ago
they do whatever we train them to do
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bluegatty
4d ago
yes ... 'the closer it is to normative, the higher the chances of success'.
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5d ago
It's 'make work' because it's a unnecessarily competitive system wherein prices will by definition be driven up to absorb all of the surpluses of any given business. Google and Facebook are in the business of 'econo
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5d ago
It's Art of War. "18. All warfare is based on deception. " AoW is one of the most important historical treatises, it's not just 'something that was written in history', maybe the oldest true 'textbooks
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5d ago
I didn't imply that all of their gross was going into ads. I'm highlighting that the gross on commodity consumer goods is huge - and that it just pays for mounds of white collar bureaucracy, including advertising, and yes 25 point
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5d ago
the roi is better at smaller corps that pay attention, but you would still be surprised. and where it is more efficient its where there is better attribution models aka direct sales. note: there are certain kinds of products that are 100% &
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5d ago
yes, they are wasting money, they know it, but caveats: famous saying 'i'd cut my ad budget in 1/2 if i knew which 1/2 to cut' 'attribution' is the holy grail of hard thing in marketing. so they know for s
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5d ago
While that's helpful and insightful, it's not hugely the issue. The military units are not very well organized, they don't have clear and stringent command, control and communications. They understood a regional commander to
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6d ago
No, it's a substantially objective, and fully uncontroversial perspective. Given that, consider consulting with another actual human being, or even your favourite AI to help ground yourself a bit in those ideas.
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6d ago
Because building 'GPS', 'LLMs', 'food preservation', 'vaccines' and 'off-road vehicles' is not 'arbitrarily different' from building 'cruise missiles' or 'F22 fight
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6d ago
I mean there's a very clear difference between 'strategic tech' that's supported by defence (GPS) - and weapons systems (Spitfire). And yes, some weapons systems are just ... 'weapons related' ... and the dual-
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bluegatty
6d ago
You're right, I misstated - I meant to say 'dual use contract'; but my point is the same.
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6d ago
I see what you're trying to say - but MS is not a defence contractor. The amount of business they do selling 'Windows' and 'Azure' to DoD is 100x whatever little tiny bit of co-research they are doing otherwise. It&
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6d ago
Microsoft Apple and Google have not blurred any lines, they are not defence contractors in any way. They are very large tech companies which will invariably have some relationship with every industry. Apple had some early contracts in defen
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6d ago
Yes, and very obviously so. I'm here to debunk such ridiculous and obviously untrue conspiratorial things. There isn't a shred of reality to support the notion that software is materially different than any other industry, and &#x
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6d ago
Because there are defence contractors in every major city.
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6d ago
It's fair to bring up the issue, but that is a deeply misrepresentative framing. Funding some key technologies is not the same as 'funding the valley'. Military related funding is probably less than a few % of the financing b
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6d ago
Good point, but there's a very big difference between dual use tech that gets it's start in the military, vs building weapons systems. Silicon, GPS, the Internet, nuclear power, most of rocketry and space etc., I think most would
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6d ago
Well done and the author is just scratching the surface ...
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7d ago
You're right!
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bluegatty
8d ago
They are not 'normies' - we're just 'nerds'. You're driving a home kit car, they're driving something out of the factory. Eventually - we'll probably drive factory variations as well.
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8d ago
No sarcasm. Maybe slightly odd is how anyone could possibly think I was being sarcastic. :) I'm not attacking you here or anything :) I'm just a bit shocked at how cynical people can be. The thought would not cross my mind ... and
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8d ago
Here is a guy tweaking photos of 'girls on a beach' in 1990 with Photoshop, which anyone can use to do, relatively easily ... ... for almost the last 40 years "a deliberately deceitful and malicious comment." This is a
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8d ago
This is the most normal thing, and this is the best example AI is: 'my wife wanted better lighting in our reno pic thingy' This is healthy and way in the range of normal, not dystopian.
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