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It is an effective safeguard for protecting female prisoners from male prisoners. There are different safeguards within each prison to protect prisoners from others of the same sex. VPUs for example.
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Please refrain from deliberately misreading my comments. Sexual assault and rape is terrible, no matter who the perpetrator or victim is. On this, I assume we agree. The issue here is policy changes that remove one of the most important saf
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This ideological argument was attempted back then too, but it's rejected by most people, who see the reality of the situation: men being locked up in women's prisons. It should be no surprise to anyone that such a policy is very u
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Although the pushback against trans activist policy has come mostly from the right in the US (with some notable exceptions - Kara Dansky of Women's Declaration International, for example), it's a different story in the UK. Around
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> We already do: we determine the sex of babies at birth, and each others' sex as adults, by looking at external genitalia and at secondary sex characteristics. > Why would knowledge of chromosomes now change that? If we look aga
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That interpretation was by the laboratory, described verbatim from the reports of the test results. Abrahamson also reported that the XY chromosomes were depicted photographically. So we know it must have been a karyotype test because that&
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I read your comment as prioritizing testosterone levels over sex. My apologies if I misinterpreted.
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> And remember we can't see chromosomes. You say this with apparent certainty: >> Newborns with 5-ARD may, in the absence of sex testing, be erroneously observed to be female, and have this written on their birth documentation
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No but the commenter I was replying to suggested removing both sex and identity as eligibility criteria for women's sport. Whereas I was arguing it should be sex first and foremost. Additional criteria can be added to take care of the
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> Do you or do you not accept as fact that people are born who are neither unambiguously male nor unambiguously female? Yes, some people are born who have differences of sex development, and this might require further investigation as to
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I agree that an XY karyotype isn't conclusive proof that an individual is male, but it's a good heuristic for male physical advantage. In the context of women's sports, and certainly at an elite level, there are very few XY D
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Interestingly there were a couple of transgendered athletes competing in this year's Olympics: Hergie Bacyadan, a female boxer who identifies as a man, and Nikki Hiltz, a female runner who identifies as a non-binary. Both competed in t
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I disagree. One shouldn't just take all possibilities as equally probable. But instead consider what would need to be involved to make each outcome possible and adjust one's perception of probabilities based on that. If it involve
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All of Michael Phelps' records have been broken by other men. None by women.
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I think this illustrates the opposite point: that being of the female sex is the most important eligibility criterion for ensuring fairness and maximising safety in women's sports, and identity is irrelevant to this.
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All the examples I can find include people with conditions that are either male DSDs or female DSDs. Seems to me that this system of marking passports with an "X" is flawed by being overly broad, including people who are unambiguo
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> On balance it's just as probable that Abrahamson has seen documents that were presented to him as "test results from a New Delhi lab" but were fabricated, or genuine but flawed, or that Abrahamson is stretching the truth
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What analyses like this don't take into account is that if a male athlete of colour is deemed ineligible to compete in women's sports, a female athlete of colour can take his place. Barring all males from women's sport opens
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Thanks for the link. Looks like Alex MacFarlane was the test case for this. Though I'm surprised he managed to convince them that he needed a passport with an "X" in it, because according to the articles on his case linked fr
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Thanks for replying. That doesn't directly answer my question but it sounds like you meant to refer to differences of sex development (DSDs) more broadly rather than just those caused by chromosomal variations. Though for competitive s
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I don't think a spectrum is the most helpful way to model the problem. What may be more useful is to consider normal males and normal females as the baseline, and then a set of discrete edge cases within each sex involving differences
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No-one who's been making any serious commentary on this topic has claimed that Khelif is trans. That's not the issue at all. What all the available evidence so far indicates is that Khelif is male, most likely with a difference of
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> due to having to settle for an identity disadvantage There is a female athlete who identifies as a man currently competing in the Olympics: Hergie Bacyadan, in women's boxing. This doesn't seem to have caused any actual disad
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But then males could pharmaceutically suppress testosterone, compete in the low testosterone class, and still make use of the male physical advantage they have from going through male puberty and having had testosterone shape their body for
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By chromosomal variations, do you mean sex chromosome aneuploidies? If so, individuals with this particular class of conditions aren't ambiguous with regards to their sex. The Y chromosome still determines if someone is male. For examp
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> There are several people here in Australia that were born neither male nor female. That's a fact. One took a valid complaint through the Australian courts that they would be lying on an official document if they checked either [F]
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It's fascinating the convoluted ideas people will come up with just to avoid the most obvious one: separate male and female categories. Did you friend say why he advocated for these arbitrary tiers rather than separating by sex?
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Sports journalist Alan Abrahamson reports that he's personally seen the test results from the New Delhi lab where both boxers had their blood samples tested during the 2023 Women's World Boxing Championships: https://ww
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The other men he competes with have similar physical advantages. And elite female swimmers do too. But it would be completely unfair to have Phelps compete in the women's events, because he also has the male physical advantage, which f
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