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billy_beef
6y ago
so why engage the platform at all? seems like the courts could easily be tasked with dealing with this.
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billy_beef
6y ago
strong agree. I don't exactly want to been seen as defending parler here. I think what amazon is doing is creating a dangerous precedent, regardless of whether parler is as odious as I've been led to believe it is.
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billy_beef
6y ago
I'm not exactly disagreeing that maybe parler should be taken to task, but amazon should not be the ones to do it. although, the historical application of the insurrection act has been incredibly political and inconsistent (the pullman
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billy_beef
6y ago
these are explicitly illegal activities with clearly argued jurisprudence. perhaps what parler hosted was illegal, but that should be up to a court to decide, not amazon.
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billy_beef
6y ago
which part? " may be harmful to others" ? This is a clause so broad as to cover nearly all speech.
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billy_beef
6y ago
there is first amendment precedent for shutting down speech that incites violence. why is that not enough here?
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billy_beef
6y ago
Unions come with consistent skills trainings, legal counsel, and representatives to intercede when management is treating employees poorly. This seems like a very helpful stable of support to be able to call on in situation like this one.
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billy_beef
6y ago
My ISP TOS, to my knowledge, do not contain language about preventing me from retrieving otherwise legal to obtain content, do yours?
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billy_beef
6y ago
I'm not writing him off, certainly. But I also don't see how this labels him as a wrong thinker? It demonstrates that he's missed the mark a lot as a result of his over-reliance on intuition. His technique for finding truth s
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billy_beef
6y ago
Your assertion was largely that an article like this didn’t have value. I explained why it does. You are free debate the points of pg here, but that’s not how our disagreement began and you are asking me to defend a different point than the
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billy_beef
6y ago
we as in his potential audience, the public, his readers etc. I don't feel like sharing the specific motivations, that is what the piece you're commenting on is doing. I'm not taking someone's assessment at face value, I
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billy_beef
6y ago
I have to disagree here. The article is criticizing his work, his history of participation in a field, and his current commentary on politics. Yes, it discusses him as a subject, but not as a piece of gossip and strung-together ad hominem&#
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6y ago
> The actual thrust of the argument seems so broad (i.e. reliance on intuition), this could be used to label almost anybody outside pol-sci academic circles a "profoundly unserious public intellectual" for commenting on politic
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billy_beef
6y ago
Credibility and authority is incredibly important. How much time can anyone devote to dissecting the words of each living person in case they contain a potentially great idea? I'm happy to examine arguments on merit, but perhaps we sho
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billy_beef
6y ago
I fail to see how one article being posted signals the decline of this website into a gossip column
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billy_beef
6y ago
Austerity measures are passed all the time under guises of a balanced budget or trimming fat. When govts cut food stamps people die, I think govts cutting hot showers might be doable.
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billy_beef
6y ago
> Companies have every right to ask employees to focus on work at work. I’m responding to this claim, maybe we’re talking about different things? My point is really: What if the “work” is running trains to death camps? Shouldn’t employee
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billy_beef
6y ago
This quickly begins to sound like a 21st century “we were only following orders” argument, no?
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billy_beef
6y ago
I think it’s more likely that smart people understand that speaking out or appearing to be in open dissent to the way amazon works is not a wise career move. Seems like a perfectly reasonable place to expect widespread preference falsificat
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billy_beef
7y ago
It comes up at work consistently in "future of the industry" kinds of discussions or when I get drinks with old coworkers and we talk about parts of our jobs we don't like. I've worked at pretty major companies, but also
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billy_beef
7y ago
Perhaps, but someone still has to build and maintain the automation, no?
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billy_beef
7y ago
Can you cite a source on this or explain your reasoning here, I'm a little unclear on the implication
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billy_beef
7y ago
What are you talking about? It comes out like often in my world?
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billy_beef
7y ago
This is hardly a legitimate measure of power compared to actually having a worker with a seat at the table.
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billy_beef
8y ago
> I don't think the brief colonial episode simply explains the wealth of my country (or many others) - especially as in between it had been completely destroyed. The fact that your nation lost stolen wealth does not absolve it of th
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8y ago
My point here was to demonstrate the way in which your nation's present day wealth was bolstered by its historical oppression. The labor value that European nations were able to extract from their colonies was extremely high. The natio
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billy_beef
8y ago
If you don't think your nation had a moral duty to apologize for the genocide of millions of Jews, black ppl, disabled ppl and queer people, then I don't think we are going to find common ground. The contingent nature of history s
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billy_beef
8y ago
> And my country (Germany) was not even involved in the slave trade, or much of colonization. Yes, if you look down far enough in history, you will find violence and all sorts of ugly things. Your nation quite literally carried out a gen
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> If you want to go down that route, consider that many people in Africa also benefited from slavery (black tribes selling their enemies as slaves). Yeah, that's gonna be a yikes from me dawg.
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billy_beef
8y ago
You should perhaps begin by educating yourself to the actual role that Germany did play in the colonization of the African continent in the late 19th and early 20th century: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_colonial
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