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bah9
26d ago
"The goal had always been" - who's goal? Company? Employee? Humanity? I didn't get your point. I enjoyed certain type of work and now it's dead. I still can be relevant doing much less enjoyable work. >In this co
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bah9
26d ago
>we need understanding of the tech-stack atleast in general Yes, but i am ~10 years beyond that point. I have solid computer science background, and i feel like anything above that now waste of my time, because i can just ask LLM and app
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bah9
26d ago
I am MLOps in a big tech company. My work is tightly coupled with training and online inferencing SOTA LLM's. Doesn't change anything in the equation
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26d ago
Came to the same conclusion as your point number one. Yes, i don't love my job anymore. It is painful, but... most of the people living like this their whole life and i was blessed to do what i love. And i still have well paying job, s
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bah9
27d ago
Sadly, I am not. But I enjoy manual labor. I am leaning towards construction/electrics. But most likely just wait couple more years and retire with enough money to never work again The irony is, my work is to train frontier llm's,
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bah9
27d ago
Thanks! What did you found for yourself?
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bah9
27d ago
What is your point? That coding was easy and nothing special? It wasn't. That programming changed forever? No one arguing. That all of us should enjoy new world order? Nah, this work isn't fun for me anymore. I will do something e
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27d ago
All code has no worth, any code can be replicated in a short amount of time. Only ideas is valuable. Not saying it is bad thing, but i enjoyed opensource, and now i don't see any value in supporting my project and contributing to other
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27d ago
I was actually surprised how few programmers enjoyed the craft. Seems like most of them are happy to "be able to do great things without boring coding"... but gathering information and setting a task is an entirely different profe
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Coding Agents killed my identity. How do you feel?
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bah9
27d ago
Ye ye, you can create tons of pretty useful software with agents nowdays and everyone who enjoyed coding are dinosaurs, i get it.
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bah9
27d ago
Programming was a chess for me. AI is a chess engine. For sure, i cared about winning (i.e. deliver product), but i have zero enjoyment from winning if i used a chess engine Somehow, a lot of people can't understand me. Seems like 90%
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27d ago
Nope. You can't. Expectations and deadlines aligned with code agent usage. No one let you spent x5 time coding things yourself
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27d ago
"The new programming language is just in your native tongue." False. Engineering was about implementation, not about result. "How to get there"? Now "thinking" is to check that model actually understood what
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1mo ago
Idk. I don't feel that "projects" have any value nowadays. Firstly, you don't get any respect, people just thinking "I could prompt that too". Secondly, if anyone can do that, what's the point? We have so
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1mo ago
As i said, most of the devs never enjoyed coding. But even on their place I wouldn't be happy. Now way less qualified people can do their work.
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1mo ago
Coding is dead, so do my joy of this profession. If I wanted to become full time manager - I would do it earlier Ok, guys, it's been fun 10 years. Yes, I am silly nerd who enjoyed understand problem and create HIS OWN solution Agentic
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1mo ago
"I want to do something advanced" - what exactly? What is exactly your contribution in this endless rat race?
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3mo ago
One thing I can't understand: why work as SWE if you don't really care about technical side, but you care about product? Managering position is much more suitable I also don't understand why care about result if you are worki
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3mo ago
It won't be close. And result will be better. Anyway, this is different type of work
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3mo ago
Ah, this sounds so unfun to me. As I thought, actual "thinking" is providing context due to bad, not self sufficient, documentation I think I am just not result driven. I like to do stuff myself, not providing info to some super i
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3mo ago
>Now I’m addicted to architectures But architecture creation can also be delegated to ai if you give agent enough context about functional/non-functional requirements, certain business side restrictions etc. Your work is to be feedb
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3mo ago
Not the same. Longshoremen become unemployed, I didn't. I just don't this new type of work as a prompt engineer and would never choose it as my career
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3mo ago
I am not denying that AI is better for productivity. Can't even say I am anti AI It is just made my work unfun for me, that's it. I always loved problem solving, writing code, thinking about architecture. Now all of this is delega
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3mo ago
Because work just became unfun. You are context provider to LLM. What is exactly your work? Give context to llm, review, update context. Navigating some sort of super intelligence thru your company's harness is not the same as writing
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4mo ago
Ahh, famous "thinking", also known as "write couple more prompts, answer llms questions and combine results". Pretty exciting
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4mo ago
"shifted my focus to architecting, problem solving, and reviewing code to make it perfect" aka write couple more prompts and combine results. Pretty exciting
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4mo ago
AI basically killed my joy for programming. I've been working as swe in bigtech for 8 years. I like learning stuff, actually coding stuff with my hands, gather information and understanding before implementing, polish my code. Thats al
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5mo ago
But... I am llm power user for more than a year and a half now. I cant delegate exactly because ive reviewed a lot of llm's code, and it is never good enough for me to step down from reviewing everything manually. I can understand how