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awrmc
5y ago
Are you suggesting "political correctness" is the only reason someone might be discouraged from installing a program named after toilet humor and juvenile references to specific parts of the anatomy? I've let my kids watch pl
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awrmc
5y ago
In my opinion, you're wasting your time with layer shell. The design of it is very X11-like and flawed. Panels setting their own position is problematic and prevents the shell from doing layout updates in one pass. You'll want to
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awrmc
5y ago
>Not sure why you'd knock the way GIMP and Inkscape LAF on other systems; they both look perfectly native on Windows, and much better than the majority of cruddy MacOS desktop app wrappers In my experience Qt apps behave much better
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awrmc
5y ago
But that's the whole thing. Redhat and the foundation don't have any leadership over a decentralized group of open source developers. Gnome is not like the Linux kernel where there's one giant repository with one lead maintai
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awrmc
5y ago
The only one out of those that's a intentional design is multiple monitors. The other ones are known shortcomings that are just really hard to fix. The memory leak was fixed a few years ago: https://feaneron.com/2018&#x
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awrmc
5y ago
That isn't how gnome works, being decentralized and all. The foundation pays for very little of the development and has little to no influence over what developers actually do. If you wanted the community to have more influence over de
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awrmc
5y ago
That's not a counterpoint, the rest of your comment doesn't follow either. Check the most recent comment for suggestions on how to help out with changing the functionality: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk&#
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awrmc
5y ago
That's categorically false, there are issues to fix both of those in the gnome settings: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues... https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME
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awrmc
5y ago
It's not easy for me to take this comment seriously because gnome doesn't actually have anything anyone could define as leadership. It's a decentralized open source thing. You might be incorrectly assuming bad faith.
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awrmc
5y ago
Iced looks pretty cool but it's focused on being a cross-platform toolkit and will probably not ever be the best choice for making programs native to Linux, like a desktop environment. If you thought there were enough problems between
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awrmc
5y ago
That seems like a lot of revisionist history. From what I've seen GTK never had good cross-platform development support. Programs like GIMP and Inkscape always looked and behaved very oddly to me on other platforms. The little support
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awrmc
5y ago
>Also gnome is so flawed in so many ways from leaking memory due to unfixable mismatch between js and compiled code, to nonsensical handling of multiple desktops, to add-ons that both rely on monkey patching your desktop due to lack of a
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awrmc
5y ago
That question is a non-sequitur. But to give you a type of answer, most of libadwaita came out of Purism.
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awrmc
5y ago
Checking the response from the maintainer shows another different story: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679658#c12 >Implementing keyboard selection inside vte means that every terminal based on vte benefits
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awrmc
5y ago
You've decided the best way forward for you is to write sysvinit and openrc scripts. That's an opinion completely focused around writing some additional code. You don't have to write it all from scratch to be expressing that
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awrmc
5y ago
I think you've got some things mixed up. The word "woke" usually means being aware of issues with discrimination in the workplace. I'd have to agree with the grandparent comment, if you're suggesting that being awar
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awrmc
5y ago
>If a bug is in systemd, I can't easily fix it myself. I now have to fight upstream to recognize my issue and fix it for me. That's not true. You can do as you would with the shell script and patch it in your local copy. If thi
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awrmc
5y ago
That's just re-stating the grandparent comment! If you think everyone is entitled to their opinion then the only tangible way to express that opinion would be to produce new code. What use is the opinion if nobody ever implements it?
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awrmc
5y ago
I haven't seen any of these supposed Red Hat projects that have dependencies for political reasons. If that were really true then it would be trivial for anyone to remove those dependencies, and there wouldn't be anything for anyo
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awrmc
5y ago
I think it's fair to say that Linux isn't Unix and goes well beyond the design constraints of Unix that were imposed when it was originally started in 1969. That's the era you stick to when you insist on only doing things the
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awrmc
5y ago
The ticket that quote came from is pretty old and turned out to be a non-issue. I've addressed that in another comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29865759 If you're trying to prove a point, you could at
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awrmc
5y ago
>I heard that Gnome is dependent on systemd now. Under some circumstances (not all), GNOME has a dependency on logind. If you're in one of those circumstances, you can use elogind as a drop-in replacement. That's far from havin
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>That was mostly feature expansion. I meant improvement of existing workflows For desktop app developers? There were a lot of API refinements and enhancements to the widgets too, I didn't mention them all because there's far to
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awrmc
5y ago
I disagree with this, in my experience D-Bus is very similar to other IDLs like DCOM, protobuf or ASN.1. If you're familiar with those, D-Bus should actually be easy in comparison.
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awrmc
5y ago
If you're asking for Red Hat to stop creating integrations between different parts of their distribution, that isn't going to happen. That's one of the benefits you get from being a distribution vendor. Every Linux distributi
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>If they just designed their software how they want to and otherwise let it be In my experience, that is what they're doing. Their software just happens to be adopted by more users because in a lot of cases it is better and does rep
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awrmc
5y ago
It's difficult to understand what your complaint is, that describes every software project I've ever seen. You pick a target set of users and then develop for those users. Is there some other way to develop software?
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awrmc
5y ago
D-Bus is the established IPC on desktop Linux. The libdbus library is pretty old and not great, you'll have better luck using one of the other implementations. I can recommend a few: - GDBus, if you're developing for GNOME - QtD
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awrmc
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I had to look up the quote but I think you have that pretty wrong. You're getting the GNOME shell and GTK mixed up. https://trac.transmissionbt.com/ticket/3685 The ticket is about GNOME 3 removing support for stat
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awrmc
5y ago
There aren't actually any projects dependent on systemd in any significant capacity. I don't know where that myth comes from but it's not true. Snap and flatpak are essentially just package managers, I can't see why you
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