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8y ago
Aggressively throttling comments. I think it's about five comments and then HN cuts you off from commenting. Not really conducive to discussions.
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8y ago
So what's stopping you? :) Just get some neighbors together and go for it.
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Manhattan?
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8y ago
Title III crowdfunding is limited to $1M.
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8y ago
What happened to Citynet? They were supposed to wire the whole of Amsterdam with open access fiber. Did they stop after the Reggefiber/KPN acquisition?
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8y ago
"A little longer" == 25 years if your returns are 10% and grow 10% annually. Other than than all true. Telecoms infrastructure is an utility play, steady long term returns. Something pension funds like, but they on the other hand
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No, the returns aren't there to make infrastructure investments attractive to VCs. A software startup can exit at 10x, an infrastructure investment won't.
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> However, from my understanding, a direct connection to the internet backbone is what gives tier q ISP's their God-like monopolizing power in a given region (like Comcast in most parts of Baltimore city). No, the reason Comcast and
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How are you covering costs?
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A Netflix cache appliance isn't dependent on the number of customers, it's on dependent on the amount of traffic from Netflix. You don't need 5000 Netflix customers, you need 5 Gbps of peak traffic to qualify. However that is
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Even a single cable in the sewer can require digging up the street if the cable causes an obstruction in the pipe.
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Rule #1: Never install new copper in the outside plan. That being said, there are companies specializing in installing fiber cables into sewers. They use tracked robots to install steel bands inside the pipes that keep the fiber cable in pl
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I recall the NYCmesh people having free bandwidth from an employer or sponsor. That obviously helps. Not exactly scalable or replicable tho.
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Anybody with enough money can connect to one or more IP transit providers ("the Internet backbone"). It will usually set you back a few thousand dollars per month.
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> Fiber like GPON is shared physically-ish, but DWDM isolates individual waves so thoroughly that it's hard to think of that as a shared physical medium unless you're thinking about backhoe fade and the like. This is incorrect.
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Your numbers are way off. In 2006, Verizon's cost to pass a property was $850 and trending towards $700 in 2010. This includes not only the outside plant, but also the OLTs. The majority of the cost is in the outside plant, so the GPON
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No, if you wanted "fair pricing" you'd have congestion pricing. Hard data caps are just a way of bilking the subscribers for more money.
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OLTs aren't that expensive, especially since you can potentially split the costs of each port over 128 subscribers. Obviously the total dollar costs add up when you put thousands of subscribers on one OLT, but the cost per subscriber
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Unless you compare the latency to a live broadcast, you'll never know how bad the latency is. Most P2P systems are terrible, which makes them pretty useless since you can hear who scored from your neighbor seconds or even minutes befor
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Like I wrote in the grandparent, it's a density thing. How many subscribers have line of sight (or close enough) for the 5G small cell to work? At some point it's going to be more cost effective to do FTTP. The CPE cost is negligi
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What's the latency like? Live broadcasts are hard enough to keep realtime without mixing in P2P problems like buffering and limited upstreams.
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While technically feasible, content owners won't allow it, so it's a moot point.
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5G might end up cheaper than FTTP, but I wouldn't get my hopes up on it being massively cheaper. Higher frequencies will require either line of sight or very short distances to the small cell. The small cells themselves will incur cost
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5G networks require lots and lots of fiber. This means a lot of digging is required.
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Yes. With the usual caveats.
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I'm not saying there won't be A market. I'm saying there won't be THE market you are hoping for. Satellite has it's uses, but replacing terrestrial broadband networks isn't one. The satellite industry is litter
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> In order to do that, the congress has to change the law so the ISPs have to share the cables they own in a building like phone lines, No can do. We already had that law and it was revoked in the Brand X decision.
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> Only if you exclude wireless options, which is becoming an ever-less rational thing to do. Maybe some day wireless will become a meaningful substitute for wireline broadband, but that day is not here yet. Thus it's very much the r
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P2P isn't very useful for real time video.
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> They already are: multiple low or modest cost, high speed satellite providers are targeting the US market for deployment in the next four or five years. Hoping satellite will solve your bandwidth problems is wishful thinking of the wor
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