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aguyfromnb
6y ago
Exactly. I think some HNers would be amazed if they read the terms associated with Tesla doing business in China.
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
Hey, it's the guy who called Tesla a "good corporate citizen" just a few months ago. Let's add: breaking stay-at-home orders, called the US government "fascist" while praising China, hired people to hack the p
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
> I think the rule with Elon Musk is all his estimates are extremely optimistic and you need to multiply them by two or three to get closer to reality. What about all the promises that have been made that never came to fruition? Do we
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
> A lot of folks on HN seems to be approaching this whole situation from the I have a ton of money, can work from home, have a car mental model. You think poor people are using Uber to get around?
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
> Our lockdowns were so badly done they didn't even decrease the daily case count. Is it any wonder? Look at the comments here. Look at guys like Elon Musk breaking quarantine for economic reasons and getting praised for it. C
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
> There won’t be any more farmers in the future but only farming corporations. Is this any different than, "pretty soon there won't be any local movie rental places (or retail places), it'll just be content delivery corpo
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
> Why do people conclude that without making a valuation? Most retail investors are not making any valuations whatsoever. The investment criteria is "this company's future is bright/bad", even though price is the mo
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
> Carmakers are also defined as a COVID19 critical industry, and every other carmaker manufacturing in the United States is either open, or capable of open today. This puts Tesla at a serious disadvantage. So locking down is just "
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
The podcast was boring nonsense. Elon or China claiming things don't make them true.
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
May 18th, the exact date Alameda County was going to allow Tesla to open until Musk had another hissy fit.
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
What does one thing have to do with the other? The public health officials who, believe it or not know more about this than Elon Musk,said they want specific metrics met before opening. Period. So Elon did what he does and is bullying them.
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
You don't think a controversial, SV darling CEO suing to allow his non essential business to open amidst a pandemic is notable? What about his public attacks on the civil servants involved in determine the rules for public safety? Wh
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
China bound.
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
> The "outrage mob" isn't real. You have got to be kidding me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_shaming
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
> It's a waste to society to have someone like Musk working in finance where he would largely be working on financial gain for a small number of individuals. Where on earth does this narrative come from that Musk isn't working
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
> bought / founded two other companies that are killing it by making things better than anyone before them. And now starlink. Don't forget that he's curing autism, blindness and paralysis, and will eliminate the need for
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6y ago
> you're misquoting me. I meant to say they are going back to work. Oh, so when I asked if people were "going to go back to work like nothing happened", and you replied "Ackchyually, Asian countries are going back to
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6y ago
> and yet their published numbers continually show greater engagement. Do you think this might have anything to do with the fact that, as an advertising company, it's crucial that they are able to tell companies that engagement is
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6y ago
> Everyone going back to work is not an unrealistic scenario since there are countries in Asia that are already doing this. You're not following the economic story very closely if you think any of those countries are "back to
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6y ago
> The markets already know the figures are terrible and that’s priced in already. I'm amazed that there are still people out there that believe the stock market is composed of a ton of rational actors calculating the net present va
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6y ago
> Markets think into the future, not the present How far into the future, then? Over a long enough time span everything goes to zero. Are there no future consequences to record levels of unemployment? Everyone just goes back to work
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6y ago
> I'm not sure why the WSJ isn't a "proper source". The paywall I hit on this article could be one reason.
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6y ago
> So you do the obvious thing: buy radio ads in city A and search ads in city B, then compare sales. The issue isn't whether search ads are better than radio ads. The issue (as illustrated in the article) is how many of those cust
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aguyfromnb
6y ago
> Take an audience of X people. Divide them in two. Show ads to your test group, don't show to control. Watch your business grow and gauge the lift between the two audiences. How are you measuring the group you don't show ads
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6y ago
> How are Tesla more innovative than other companies ? People always seem to compare Tesla technology of tomorrow with what its competitors are doing right now. That's why Volvo "only" has level 3 self-driving, while Tes
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6y ago
I'm not sure announcing products with no capacity to manufacture them should be considered "innovation".
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6y ago
> Tesla is the auto giant leaving behind all the legacy manufacturers while also branching into energy products Tesla has sub-1% market share in the global auto market and rapidly declining energy product deployment (they deployed 4x mo
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> They have laptops that cost just as much, if not more, than a Macbook. And every one of them has some glaring issue. You can go to many laptop review sites and find that Apple are not dominating every category. What do you know that t
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> Tech in general has been raided by finance douches. My observation is that many "old-school" tech people weren't replaced by finance people, but became them. Silicon Valley today is Wall Street of the 80s. VC Twitte
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6y ago
> The governments of the west need to be capable, but still protect the privacy of their people - that isn't an easy problem You're right, it's a hard problem. And until these companies or institutions can prove that t
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