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acefaceZ
11mo ago
Whatever Stallman’s vision was - It seems he didn’t care enough to fight for it when sh@# hit the fan with Neo4j. If you don’t know what I am talking about check out link below. https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/
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acefaceZ
11mo ago
Not sure what you mean - ‘worked as intended’. The case is still going on in 9th circuit and has amicus briefs from SFC and FSF. There will be case law after appeal - FSF seems too timid to sue Neo4j (which they could do) and save decades o
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acefaceZ
11mo ago
At least Liquibase isn’t masquerading under a well known open source license, unlike Neo4j’s infamous AGPL bait-and-switch. Neo4j quietly slipped the Commons Clause into what looked like a standard AGPL license, complete with the FSF copyri
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acefaceZ
1y ago
Thank you. I did some more in depth research and it sounds like they just fixed their clustering mechanism to actually do some sharding like elasticsearch and TigerGraph. Calling it Infinigraph is a much better marketing move than saying “W
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Neo4j Launches Infinigraph. What is it?
(neo4j.com)
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acefaceZ
1y ago
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acefaceZ
1y ago
It sounds interesting but based on their tendency to overhype everything - I am a little skeptical. Have they finally managed to fix the scalability issues?
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acefaceZ
1y ago
Neo4j performance is horrendous unless you have huge amounts of memory. I would wager that anyone who has used Neo4j for anything related to graphrag or used its vector features knows it’s not a great solution. Anyone can verify this quit
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acefaceZ
1y ago
Neo4j has been trying to scare agencies into paying for enterprise licenses. I bet many more are going to dump them moving forward because of this behavior and the fact that the costs don’t really support any meaningful ROI except for edge
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acefaceZ
1y ago
+1 for Kuzu I would avoid Neo4j open source offerings (community edition, etc) like the plague until their court case is over. They are fighting to be able to use their interpretation of what GPL terms means - and from their past behavior
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acefaceZ
2y ago
Sounds about right. I don’t think their investors were too happy with their ‘open source’ activities. Neo4j got to where they are on the backs of the open source community, which makes this situation that much more maddening.
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acefaceZ
2y ago
Copied from other thread: The case centers on who has the authority to interpret the terms of an open-source license: 1.The software developers who adopt licenses like GPLv3, MIT, or Apache 2.0 for their projects OR 2. The original authors
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acefaceZ
2y ago
Exactly - the court system does not accept PDFs generated by most open source tools. Pretty crazy. Adobe and Microsoft must love that.
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acefaceZ
2y ago
If you are familiar with pacer or ACMS - it is an old antiquated system. You can’t submit PDFs for example generated from anything other than Adobe Acrobat or exported from Microsoft word.
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acefaceZ
2y ago
I think there is more to the story. Here is an interesting tidbit: The person Neo4j is fighting (Suhy) is the founder of ONgDB and DozerDB - the 2 biggest open source forks of Neo4j. (Possibly the only forks)
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acefaceZ
2y ago
The case centers on who has the authority to interpret the terms of an open-source license: 1.The software developers who adopt licenses like GPLv3, MIT, or Apache 2.0 for their projects OR 2. The original authors of those licenses (FSF, Ap
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The FSF just filed an Amicus Brief in long running Neo4j case
(fsf.org)
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acefaceZ
2y ago
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acefaceZ
2y ago
It looks like the Free Software Foundation is not standing on the sidelines any longer and have called out Neo4j in the newly filed Amicus Brief filed February 28th, 2025. Many in the community are only just starting to realize the potentia
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Defense of FOSS licensing rests on the shoulders of a guy in Virginia
(theregister.com)
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acefaceZ
2y ago
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acefaceZ
2y ago
The open-source community is finally realizing that Neo4j v. PureThink could set a dangerous legal precedent, allowing companies to impose new restrictions on open-source licenses. If the Ninth Circuit upholds the lower court’s ruling, it w
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acefaceZ
2y ago
See my reply in main thread. I meant to post it as a reply to this message.
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acefaceZ
2y ago
You may want to read the SFC amicus brief. From your comment, it sounds like you don’t really understand what is at stake, which is understandable considering the complexity. The GPLv3 (including AGPLv3) will effectively die as no one can t
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acefaceZ
2y ago
The danger here isn’t just about AGPLv3 or even GPLv3, it’s about setting a legal precedent that could be used to undermine all open-source licenses, including permissive ones like MIT and Apache. GPLv3 will be decimated if the ruling is up
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acefaceZ
2y ago
Thanks for looking out for the community!! The community needs more organizations like yours - who will stand up to this type of behavior. Neo4j’s actions are very disappointing. It’s hard to ignore that this litigation is aimed at someone
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IPO window opens, Reddit files to go public
(techcrunch.com)
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3y ago
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acefaceZ
3y ago
You have to watch the whole video to get it…
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Cause of ATT Outage Identified
(youtube.com)
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acefaceZ
3y ago
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acefaceZ
3y ago
What is the big deal? Just use your HAM radio.
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acefaceZ
3y ago
I believe they are part of the recently setup homesteading program similar to what Alaska setup in the 80s. If they can put a stake in the ground they get 20 acres around the stake.
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Use the Source a Revolution in Grassroots Software Right to Repair Tool
(sfconservancy.org)
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3y ago
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acefaceZ
3y ago
I think that despite previous claims of planning an IPO over the years, it appears more likely now, not due to optimal conditions but rather a potential lack of investor interest in further funding rounds (Series G), presenting an IPO as th
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