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_vvaw
4y ago
The study was commissioned by the NHS and led by Dr. Hilary Cass, past president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health: https://www.england.nhs.uk/commissioning/spec-services/npc-c... It shut Tavist
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_vvaw
4y ago
Over the past week I’ve read enough on and about Kiwi Farms to conclude that while “doxing” does happen there, as it does on Twitter and other websites, the claims of harassment and SWATing and users driving people to suicide are highly and
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_vvaw
4y ago
So the trans community stands with Keffals, a documented child groomer and provider of puberty blockers + hormones to minors behind their parents' backs? https://archive.ph/HY4hK Promoter (again, to children) of sketch
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_vvaw
4y ago
The threat was also quite clearly unserious.
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4y ago
>Of course, but I think a threat to kill someone with a bomb is unambiguously threatening and intimidating The "bomb threat" was posted by a recently-created and otherwise inactive account, immediately flagged by multiple users
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_vvaw
4y ago
He has already been swatted multiple times. In the past trans activists have shown up at his house with weapons, looking for him. Keffals doxed his mom on Twitter a few days ago, posting her full face photo and calling for her firing while
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4y ago
> (a) There is no independent verification of those claims against Keffals There absolutely is. The DIY HRT Directory website is live right now, as are Keffals' tweets and Twitch clips promoting it. The sexual tweets directed at min
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_vvaw
4y ago
"There is freedom of speech, but I cannot guarantee freedom after speech." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idi_Amin
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_vvaw
4y ago
Kiwi Farms users are anonymous too. The owner of KF regularly cooperates with American law enforcement.
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4y ago
And I think you should read this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32712037 And this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32728365 The fight over Kiwi Farms' Wikipedia page is intense. Keffals, a
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_vvaw
4y ago
In terms of SWATing, harassment, and "driving people to suicide" this is a false impression, one that is intentionally spread by the site's detractors. SWATing and harassment is strictly banned on Kiwi Farms. The site owner a
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_vvaw
4y ago
SWATing and harassment is explicitly prohibited on Kiwi Farms, and the site owner aggressively removes such content. "Doxing" is for better or worse not a crime, and is practiced by the very same people currently crying for Kiwi F
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_vvaw
4y ago
What they were doing was not a crime, as evidenced by every lawsuit against the site getting thrown out and the owner's extensive cooperation with law enforcement. The line with "Kiwi Farms is responsible for 3 suicides" seem
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4y ago
It got named because the alleged attacker called the police and said "it was me, Kiwi Farms user so-and-so." The user in question denied making this call and claimed they had been impersonated. This happened in the midst of the
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4y ago
>Nobody was ever able to get any of the documentation listed on this page from the Japanese side, even family Do you mean the allegedly-deceased person's family has been unable to confirm their death with the government? This seems
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4y ago
You’re making specious arguments, engaging in ad hominem, ignoring scientific evidence that you disagree with, and generalizing your individual experience to millions of unrelated minors. I have no intention of engaging with a bad-faith res
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4y ago
Update: I am amazed and disappointed.
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4y ago
I don’t know how we’re still retreating to “private companies can do what they want” in the free speech debate on HN. It’s clear that those who want Kiwi Farms gone are resorting to illegal means such as DDoSing to get what they want. A ver
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4y ago
Bomb threats, real world harassment and fake calls to the police are strictly banned on Kiwi Farms. Making fun of transsexuals is not. Nor is the latter illegal, as much as some in this case and in this comment section wish it were.
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4y ago
You didn’t though. It is obvious you have an attitude towards the access of underage children to cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers that differs from that of evidence-based medicine, such as that practiced in Sweden or the UK where suc
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4y ago
Calling well-established science replicated over many years and large-n studies “dodgy” simply doesn’t make it so.
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4y ago
There are many archived Twitter posts where the owners of this site (Keffals and Chloe aka bobposting) brag about supplying minors with hormones behind parents’ backs, even sending these drugs to children directly which is highly illegal. T
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4y ago
Kiwi Farms is back on an alternate domain. Posters in the Keffals thread believe the fake bomb threat was to blame for Cloudflare’s reaction. The account which made the post barely had any other activity on the site. The post itself was rem
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4y ago
You can visit the archive links and live site yourself, the blog I mentioned adds nothing new. I mentioned them to illustrate the lack of attention paid to this point by the media; only such an obscure, relatively partisan blog has picked i
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4y ago
She published LoTT’s full legal name and enough of a description to positively locate her on Spokeo/White Pages/etc. That is a common cop-out for Twitter mobs; posting the ready-made parts for such a search but not the actual home
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4y ago
Do you have sources for Byuu/Near spotted alive? First I’ve heard of it.
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”Unmasking” is merely code for “doxing someone we don’t like.” Someone’s full legal name is all you really need to look them up on people-finder websites, which IMO are the real problem and in urgent need of regulation.
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_vvaw
4y ago
Neither of those incidents took place in the last 48 hours, or have been definitively attributed to Kiwi Farms.
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4y ago
What was the actual threat? Was it posted on Kiwi Farms, or transmitted via another channel?
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4y ago
Keffals decided to leave North America after one SWATing of unknown attacker provenance. Josh Moon, owner of Kiwi Farms, has been SWATed numerous times (as have been many larger Twitch streamers) and even had trans activists show up at his
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