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TisButMe
3y ago
Kagi employee here. The search business is sustainable, we don't need a push in AI things to make it work. We're looking at these features/ideas because we think they complement search well, not because we need them from a ca
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TisButMe
3y ago
Heya, I work at Kagi, and I did the math for this. Our unit economics are sound, and we don't plan on subsiding usage with ties-attached money. We have abuse prevention mechanisms, and we regularly review heavy use use-cases so we can
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TisButMe
3y ago
Heya, I work at Kagi. This sounds like a great idea, thanks for the input! We'll put it on the requested features list (which our users contribute to).
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TisButMe
3y ago
If you think we should word the privacy policy differently, please do submit some feedback on kagifeedback.org with the specifics - we have changed it in the past through exactly this process. It has been written by engineers, mostly for en
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TisButMe
3y ago
https://kagi.com/privacy - it's not written in legalese.
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TisButMe
3y ago
I work at Kagi. We don't have KPIs that track search quality in that way (we don't have any frontend tracking at all, so we can't know if you click any of the results), and we haven't touched much the sources of data we&
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TisButMe
3y ago
I work at Kagi. I think this is partly a function of who our early user base was, and the tons of feedback they gave which helped improve our search. Because we don't keep the data, we can't do a lot of the ML-powered search impro
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TisButMe
3y ago
I work at Kagi. I'm as blown away by the recent coverage as you are. We're a 15ish people company, which is staying away from VC money and only raised a relatively small amount of money directly from our users. We don't have
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TisButMe
3y ago
I work at Kagi. This is a very reasonable fear to have. We do actually not store the data, but of course you'd need to take me at my word for this. That said, if we did lie or change that, we'd be in immediate breach of our privac
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TisButMe
3y ago
Heya, I work at Kagi. This is correct, we do not personalize searches other than by respecting the user's customizations (eg. domain preferences, lenses, etc...) which are all entirely user-controlled.
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TisButMe
3y ago
Hey daveoc64. I work at Kagi. Really cool stuff is coming for Ultimate, and being a early Ultimate user you'll get it before the newer users. If that doesn't work for you (fair enough) and you switch to pro, we'll prorate all
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3y ago
We do - we have lenses which basically search subsets of the web (and you can make your own). Academic is a default lens :)
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TisButMe
3y ago
I do, we don't log searches.
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TisButMe
3y ago
We do read the comments, but as far as I'm concerned this is a feature, not a bug :)
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TisButMe
3y ago
Possibly yes - I think that's my point with predicting peak oil wrong for 50 years. Still, right now it seems every time OpenAI/someone else adds a new content filter, someone figures out a prompt escape that works.
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3y ago
I'm not too worried about GPTs trained on GPTs, maybe that's an LLM analogy to AlphaGo playing itself a lot to learn how to play go. I'm more worried about people specifically trying to get into the training corpus with biase
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3y ago
I now did in the parent comment :P
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(author here) How do you know what's a prompt injection vs actual content? If you train another LLM to tell you what's a prompt injection, how do you know it has 100% coverage of all possible injections? OpenAI has been battling p
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3y ago
Agreed, and I mentioned that solution in the article, but I'm not so convinced this is true. It reads a bit like the "if you're a great programmer, the lack of memory safety of C isn't a problem!" argument. In theor
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(Author here) that's what I thought originally, but then it means that LLMs never get to learn from new content - current ones stop in 2021, they don't know that Russia invades Ukraine, or that Arc is a cool browser or the API of
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Peak LLM?
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10y ago
Maybe, but your interface is smooth and slick! It was a weekend project for me, so didn't have time to refine it too much, and it does what I use it to do, but it definitely looks like I could learn a lot in design from you :D
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TisButMe
10y ago
Looks like we had a similar idea :D http://bandmap.me/
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TisButMe
11y ago
Where are you in France? I've got unlimited call + sms + 4G data (limited bandwidth after 20Gb) for 20€/month, and 300Mb/s fibre connection for 35€/month. I have not seen similar rates in the UK/US.
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11y ago
But those people will always be a net negative for society, basic income or not. Empowering those who would make a positive difference if they had enough time/money sounds like a good idea to me.
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11y ago
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on most of those points then. I do not think there are trivial/uninteresting questions. You have to prioritise, but you can't just sweep stuff under the rug and call it a day. I'm
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11y ago
So you just accept for no reason that tap water is bad somehow, and discard the result you've just gotten? I do understand that you have a limited amount of time, and can't just go after everything, but when something happens in s
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11y ago
But wet lab scientists should be even more careful! They have way less control over the system they're trying to study than you do, so stats are the only security net we have to even attempt to do anything with the data we produce. I a
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11y ago
I've been lucky enough to work in outstanding labs, with people published in Nature, and other journals of that quality. I've worked in 2 countries, and for 4 different labs. I've also talked with people from all over the wor
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11y ago
I hoped that it wasn't as bad in computational biology, or ecology, or any other biology field where systems and models are actually defined. It saddens me to read that your experience was as bad as mine...
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