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ParadigmComplex
6mo ago
A Bedrock Linux 0.7.x point update released less than two months ago. The slow of progress to 0.8.0 is in part because, after 0.7.0's release, the user support load has been very high, because the project community is quite active. New
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ParadigmComplex
3y ago
To be clear, Bedrock Linux does not hang during sleep. Rather, it cannot enter sleep consistently; if it fails to, it simply continues on as it was operating before the request to suspend. The underlying issue is a long standing The Linux
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ParadigmComplex
4y ago
I've looked into this further since the link you've provided. I have medium/long term ideas to work around this, but nothing in the short term: - Ultimately this seems to trace back to a bug in the Linux kernel. Sadly, I do
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ParadigmComplex
4y ago
I can speak authoritatively for Bedrock Linux, although blendOS is new to me. From what I can tell reading about blendOS, key differences seem to be: - blendOS appears to use a common host-container relationship, with automation to make th
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
Ah, I now see what you mean. With the exceptions of /var/lib/dbus/machine-id and /var/run, which need to be shared for certain bits of software to communicate properly, /var is currently isolated by defau
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
Without something to constrain where it is used, chroot can be theoretically abused as part of an attack. Thus, by default chroot requires root permissions. Part of what schroot does is indeed allow root to approve a list of known-safe lo
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
I really do wish I could help, but I don't know how to reconcile what I'm reading as a mutually exclusive desire. If I'm interpreting you correctly, it sounds like you recognize what you're after requires complexity, an
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
Bedrock Linux is a system to integrate things from different distros. The desire to use it while avoiding integration with a "base system" seems mutually exclusive to me. I think one of us is failing to model the other properly.
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
Apologies, I misinterpreted your concern to be a matter of losing the entirety of Nix's atomic features entirely rather than concern over even limited escapes from its Nix's scope. In this case it does sound like Bedrock's t
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
I'm likely equipped to answer your question if you elaborate a bit on what you mean by runtime state. Could you provide concrete examples of things you are curious about? The general pattern, in case it covers what you are looking for
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
Bedrock does support exactly this workflow. I do something along these lines, with the nuanced difference that I have a period of overlap where I'm using both the old and new strata around at once. When a new major release of a non-ro
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
It depends on exactly what you mean. While you may not have intended it to be, this question is more philosophical than technical. Extended conversations I've had on this topic eventually drift toward subjects like the Ship of Thes
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
> Thanks for coming on here. You're welcome :) > What do you think about Nix and Guix way of managing packages I have not used either in adequate depth to make strong statements about them. That having been said, I find the idea
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
You are very welcome
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
> What are the main downsides to using Bedrock? I address them in this FAQ entry [0]. In my experience providing support for Bedrock Linux users for over a decade, the most notable downside is the resulting complexity. This is a fundam
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
My understanding of Bedrock Linux's security concerns are addressed in this FAQ entry [0]. In the decade or so I've been working on Bedrock, I have yet to come across any situations where the differing assumptions between distros
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
> You mentioned both Arch and AUR in the target user part, which makes me wonder if you were mainly a Arch user before, Before Bedrock Linux I was mainly a Debian user. I did briefly run Arch Linux before working on Bedrock, but I found
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
> Hi and thanks for reaching out to the community here. You're welcome :) > As a poweruser. What are the benefits of this best of all worlds approach, and when might I need them? If you run into a situation where: - The distro t
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
It is not clear to me why you feel this way. Everyone I've spoken with who has put effort toward making Bedrock play nicely NixOS has done so with the aim of retaining that list of NixOS's strengths in the NixOS slice of the syst
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
> For a more extreme case, there is a schroot (or a docker container) with /home, audio and X mapped in. Works surprisingly well for desktop apps, like those embedded IDEs which require a specific Linux distribution you don’t want t
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
Either stubbornness or perseverance, depending on how charitable one is feeling.
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
I'm the Bedrock Linux founder and lead developer. I'm happy to answer any questions.
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
> It's pretty cool that this can host other distros, but is that the only advantage over NixOS? The ability to transparently get features from other distros is Bedrock Linux's defining characteristic. It's not trying to d
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ParadigmComplex
6y ago
Bedrock Linux does indeed support workflows with multiple copies of Debian, and this does in practice often resolve the quoted concern of mixing parts from different Debian releases without having them step on each other problematically. A
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ParadigmComplex
13y ago
I'm the founder / lead developer of Bedrock Linux, which as dalias said uses musl (as of our latest release). They've been very prompt about fixing any issues we have with musl and making it very hard to find excuses not to
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ParadigmComplex
13y ago
Bedrock Linux, as it gives me many of the advantages of other distros at the same time. Stability of Debian/CentOS, access to cutting-edge packages from Arch (including AUR), ability to have portage automatically compile things with m
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ParadigmComplex
13y ago
Ah, I misunderstood and feel silly. My apologies.
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ParadigmComplex
13y ago
I'm not sure I'd describe Bedrock Linux quite like that. Rather, the idea is that you can install packages from just about any other distribution, including things which are typically seen as mutually exclusive. The majority of t
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ParadigmComplex
13y ago
Everything on that list is catagorized as "works-out-of-the-box" or "works mostly out of the box". My guess is the author has no interest in distributions like Bedrock Linux or Gentoo that require initial setup to get t
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ParadigmComplex
13y ago
That's also a very legitimate concern. On systems with limited RAM - or disk space - one should either limit themselves to a relatively small number of clients/packages, more likely, prefer another operating system.
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