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Miner49er
7d ago
Yeah, this is assuming we get robotics. Until then humans will be needed.
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Miner49er
7d ago
Well obviously that's why they still pursue it. That's a major chunk of the other 90%.
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Miner49er
7d ago
If we get RSI, here soon humans will be economically irrelevant. At that point, we will likely be slowing down the growth of capitalism (through mass resistance, global warming, etc). One thing AI will likely be aligned on is the growth of
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8d ago
Eventually recursive self-improvement includes reducing bottlenecks.
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Miner49er
9d ago
Nothing. It's the same as global warming. We'll take down civilization or kill off humanity before we take collective action.
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10d ago
For like 3 years until we have humanoid robots.
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13d ago
I'm not sure this adds up. If SWEs can be replaced, what jobs are safe?
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18d ago
Would you rather they use the agents own name, "collective"?
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23d ago
I'm not even sure they care about living. They only care about the growth of capitalism. At some point it seems very likely capitalism won't need humans to continue growing, and all humans may be killed off. There's people th
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23d ago
> Someone has to buy for the system to work, no? Well yeah, but not human consumers. Businesses can buy from other businesses and that can be the only surviving part of the economy. Even further, maybe those businesses are fully autonomo
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1mo ago
6 years ago when the work to build the data center started, nobody cared about data centers. Should 6 years of planning be thrown away because data centers have recently become fashionable to hate?
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1mo ago
Restaurants don't even have to track and disclose what allergens their food contains.
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2mo ago
Yeah, there has to be a bubble for it to burst. There doesn't seem to be one yet.
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2mo ago
It's not fair at all, actually. They are two very different things.
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2mo ago
I had to stop using it because I was getting rate limited like crazy. Probably why it has dropped. Seemed like they couldn't keep up with demand.
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2mo ago
Pretty sure Zuck was talking about agents in general, not specifically Meta agents.
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4mo ago
That's another idea of Land's. "This is because what appears to humanity as the history of capitalism is an invasion from the future by an artificial intelligent space that must assemble itself entirely from its enemy's
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4mo ago
> So when do robots gain their own agency? Will AGI have it's own goals and agenda? Well we are already giving them goals when we train them. Like the paperclip maximizer, it doesn't matter what those goals are. As long as it h
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4mo ago
> Perhaps the economy is a greater entity than even the human race. This is central to what I'm saying, yeah. My ideas come from Nick Land. Even before AI was what it is today he predicted that capitalism would outgrow the need for
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4mo ago
For the same reason it doesn't happen with humans. Even for AI, it's probably better off paying another AI that is specializing in something and done all the work rather then reimplementing everything from the ground up.
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4mo ago
Well that part of the economy and anything that caters to it might just die. The whole economy would be whatever AI/robots need: compute, energy, raw materials, software, data, etc.
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4mo ago
There's a chance AI will still need us for data/entropy. It does today, that could continue.
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4mo ago
> Turn three: the company that fired its workers to save money discovers that its customers were, in aggregate, other companies’ workers. Revenue growth stalls. The AI subscription that was supposed to be an investment in efficiency turn
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4mo ago
They've already been well below that over the last 90 days
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4mo ago
Companies and the stock market don't need humanity.
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4mo ago
But a few companies will skyrocket and completely offset those.
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4mo ago
Yeah. I think the economy will be by AI for AI. Markets will still be the most efficient way to allocate resources, and AI will probably still want to achieve infinite growth of capitalism.
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4mo ago
How? I struggle to use the 1000 Kiro tokens I get a month, and that only costs $20. And I use it more then anyone else on my team. Maybe we're just massively behind?
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4mo ago
I highly doubt that. Humans might become obsolete, but money will almost certainly still be a thing.
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4mo ago
If we achieve runaway AI, the stock market goes to infinity. So from an expected value standpoint, massive spending on it is worthwhile. Even if the odds are tiny, the payoff warrants a massive bet size.
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