Jonsvt

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Vivaldi first browser on Android Automotive and Polestar 2(slashgear.com)
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
I do think reading your mail for ads is another level of surveillance-based advertising. It is also quite personal.
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
Your statement below is both funny and misleading at the same time and I guess it is also why opt-in is often such a misleading term. So you start with all pages that have ads, meaning most all pages that are tracked today. Then you add to
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
I do not know which country you come from and maybe what you describe is correct in your country. I can say that it is not in my countries, Norway and Iceland and this has not been my experience running an international company either. In a
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
Google started as a search engine. Their results were accurate and there were no ads. Gradually they started doing ads on search results, related to the search itself. This was better than what many of the competitors at the time were doing
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
I do not understand where you get the impression that the interest of business and state are aligned when it comes to data collection. I would say that in a lot of cases, it is rather the opposite. You seem to assume that the state always h
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
Suddenly the tracking includes all sites and pages. That is not an improvement. Having an opt out or even an opt in is not the solution here. We have all seen how that works. The tracking just has to stop. Google can generate plenty of reve
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
I guess the start of it gave that impression in particular. It is great you are giving so much of your salary to charity, but the fact that is the first thing you write as an explanation of why you do what you do does send a signal. I also
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
Feel free to read : https://vivaldi.com/blog/no-google-vivaldi-users-will-not-ge... Really, FLOC is for me the ultimate betrayal. The browser is not supposed to make an ad profile based on the browsing history. It is j
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
Interesting read. Clearly you are struggling with your choice.
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
So in other words FLOC makes the browser spyware. Clearly the browser history is useful for the user. That is why it is there. The browser company has no right to take that history and turn it into an ad profile. It is just plain wrong.
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
These are not more private alternatives. This is just tracking using other methods. FLOC is tracking and it is in no way more private.
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
Clearly not allowing anyone to track is good for competition. Now there are certain companies that collect data from multiple sources. That gives them a benefit compared to others. But what I do not understand is how they can do it? How can
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
FLOC is tracking in your browser. How is that not individual? Not that it matters. Tracking is wrong whether you are able to track an individual or not. This is not just about privacy.
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
I think this is one of the big misinformation being propagated. That somehow you would not be able to get GMail or other services if Google is not allowed to collect information. The reality is that Google did just fine before they did surv
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
And some of them, such as Google, are working on FLOC... This has got to stop now.
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
The point is the FLOC is surveillance as well. You are still profiling users. This has got to stop. https://vivaldi.com/blog/no-google-vivaldi-users-will-not-ge...
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
Yes, FLOC and similar technologies, are another way to track users, but this time in the browser. We really do not see that as being any better. In many ways it is really worse. https://vivaldi.com/blog/no-google-vivald
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
I think you will find that there is a certain part of the population that has bought into the story that surveillance-based ads are somewhat needed for the Internet to work. It is just a story. We have seen from GDPR that you cannot leave a
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
This is not a question of leaks. The data is already in the wrong hands and actively being misused.
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by Jonsvt 5y ago
This is very much a recommended read for everyone.
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by Jonsvt 10y ago
Thanks. We aim to please. :) There is a lot more cool stuff in the pipeline. :)
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by Jonsvt 10y ago
This is a priority for sure. We are getting there.
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by Jonsvt 10y ago
Thanks. That is what we are all about. We believe we all deserve to get a browser that can be made to work just right. Thus we have the motto : when in doubt, make it an option.
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by Jonsvt 10y ago
Thank you for your kind words about Vivaldi. I was the co-founder of Opera and now co-founder of Vivaldi. A big part of the team is former Opera people. We are based in Norway and Iceland, mostly, with team members in a couple of other loca
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by Jonsvt 10y ago
Glad you like our browser. We are working hard to continue to add really useful features, cool stuff and more flexibility. Our philosophy is that we all deserve a browser that works in the way we want it to. This means we listen to input an