IvyAdmisions

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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
A lottery among the academically qualified students would produce a class with many fewer African American, Native American and Latino students which would be politically untenable. Those cohorts score much worse than caucasians and asians
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
Just remember that the heads of admissions are the ones coming up with these policies (in tandem with other university leaders) and personally reviewing all the applicants in the end to make sure they're carried out.
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
Lots of downvotes. To clarify my point: The elite schools only want to admit so many future doctor/lawyer/engineers. Today, the way they limit those numbers hits asian applicants disproportionately hard. 80 years ago, jewish app
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
Agreed and for similar reasons imo, to guard against admiting too many students with no ambition beyond a comfy middle class lifestyle.
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
The kids winning the "at large" bids have 6-12 extracurriculars and standout in many of them OR they have 1-2 and are distinguished in them at the state or national level. So if you had a project that ate up all your time like th
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
Alumni Interview programs exist mainly to create a sense of continued involvement with the alma mater post-graduation so alumni will donate more. Their interview reports were rarely material to a decision. A main reason for this is that al
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
I wasn't taking aim at robotics club (which is awesome). I was taking aim at slim resumes with 1-2 activities.
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
On what basis? The Ivy League schools understand that admission is a ticket to a comfy-but-historically-and-culturally-insignificant middle-class life. Their goal is to guard against applicants seeeking that and to look for those who will
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
Generally they want a mix of people like that; people skilled in sports, music, various arts; and some people TRULY gifted intellectually (actually doing research or showing strong promise to). They also need to admit enough rich kids to s
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
Correct. There's a belief at the very top of these schools that they only want so many people leading one-dimensional lives focused on entering upper middle class trades like law and medicine.
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
From an earlier thread: I was a college admissions officer for a few years and am familiar with the process at the top Ivies. The outcome is racist but there's no intent to be racist. Imagine your job is to create the best possible 200
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
Not touching that!
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
Agreed. Here's how I put it elsewhere in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17336374
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
And they'd be WAAAAAY more overrepresented if the "Great Academics, Boring eveything else" applicants got in.
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
The asians will still get rejected. They're not rejected for racial reasons. They're rejected because they submit uninspiring, cookie cutter applications en masse. This may be because of something in the asian culture. That&#x27
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
Lawsuits like this, I'd imagine. Also, waaaaaay more asians need to be running for Congress. It's getting better but they're still underrepresented slightly (4.8% of reps are asian while 5.6% of americans are).
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
Like I said, it's not a race thing, its that a lot of the asian applicants all basically look the same on paper and have the same stated goals. Lots of white kids apply with the same "look" and also get rejected. Those stud
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
As to your second point, like I said, it wasn't about asian people. There were TONS of white kids with applications like the ones I outlined. Those kids got whacked too, but asians were the biggest group in the cohort.
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
I didn't stick around past two years because I regularly had to make decisions based on assumptions that I outlined above and I just wasn't comfortable with it. It felt bad reading a pretty good application from a kid in Puerto R
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
I was an ivy league admissions officer for a few years after college. Harvard and the other Ivies don't want to keep out asian people. They want to keep out boring, myopic applicants who spend all day studying to achieve the grades an
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
I was an ivy league admissions officer for a few years after college. Race is only a proxy for what really happens in these admissions processes. Imagine your job is to create the best possible 2000-student freshman class for Harvard from
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by IvyAdmisions 8y ago
I was an ivy league admissions officer for a few years after college. I promise you your application was viewed as "well, here's another really smart asian kid who's otherwise unremarkable from the other 1000 we'll see&q