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Diagon
2y ago
Would we be able to improve that with multiple runs? eg. 2 our of 3? (Or, ie. are the errors systematic?)
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Diagon
7y ago
We've got another article. https://www.fastcompany.com/90440817/bill-gates-solves-your-...
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Diagon
7y ago
Reports that there is an extension of the deadline to download groups until Jan. 31 are a smokescreen put up by Verizon. The Dec. 14 deadline still holds, but they will take requests of users for their data until Jan 31. This is a fail be
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Diagon
7y ago
More media attention: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/59nnek/verizon-is-blockin... https://slate.com/technology/2019/12/yahoo-groups-is-ending-... https://arstech
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7y ago
Ok, so it's a webcast and it LL we can join it through here: https://www.ubs.com/global/en/investment-bank/conferences/am... I'm not clear if we'll be able to give feedback, but I can try.
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Diagon
7y ago
Looks like this might help you: https://superuser.com/a/241200 Redsocks is a transparent proxy, though. That'll redirect system-wide. I think you're thinking of your basic socks proxy - `ssh -D`.
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Diagon
7y ago
Apparently now that they have gotten through the Fandom groups, and are working through the groups that were requested to be archived, they are ranked in order of number of members. So they are working on progressively smaller groups.
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Diagon
7y ago
And how complete was it? Have you checked? You may be disappointed. You might want to check out one of these while you have the chance: https://github.com/IgnoredAmbience/yahoo-group-archiver https://gith
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Diagon
7y ago
Thanks for that history. I wasn't aware of it. I got into this tangentially because of a community and ecosystem of Y-groups that I've been involved in. When I found the Archive Team's efforts, I hitched my wagon - though I
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Diagon
7y ago
I've only just heard from this woman. She seems to be writing on the issue but not an archivist. (Though I'm not 100% clear.)
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Diagon
7y ago
Yes, exactly. Other groups have medical tests uploaded to the files section, to be shared with other members and discussed on-list. And yet others had artistic works or literature.
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Diagon
7y ago
Well, it was actually intentional. While a lot of us were backing up our groups as individuals (whether as owners or just members), and having no trouble there, the Archive Team was taking requests. So there was volume involved, and they
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Diagon
7y ago
Point taken. There's also stuff there about contacting Verizon and contacting the shareholders of Verizon. For them, I think we need volume.
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Diagon
7y ago
I don't see why not. Point Thunderbird at it or something and then just transfer the mails over to somewhere else if you want that - but this is not about mail. Rather it's about Yahoo Groups, whose archives are about to go away
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Diagon
7y ago
ProtonVPN is involved with funding Wireguard development: https://protonvpn.com/blog/wireguard-donation/
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Diagon
7y ago
There are three that we've noticed so far: https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/as-the-end-nears-for-yahoo-grou... https://www.zdnet.com/article/verizon-kills-email-accounts-o... https://w
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Diagon
7y ago
Wait. You're saying that the owners of the .org TLD could put restrictions on the use of those domain names? And something like "can't be used for archiving" is a legal possibility? I admit to legal ignorance, but this
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7y ago
Using the interface wouldn't block scrapers, yes? They do use the interface. But, this is academic I think. They offer a broken way to get our stuff, and say that we can't do anything else. Should we acquiesce to this? As for
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Diagon
7y ago
I've passed on your idea. What did EFF have to say? Anything hopeful?
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Diagon
7y ago
Someone else mentioned that group on this thread. A group member. Scroll to the second page. He mentioned it along with a number of other groups worth archiving.
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7y ago
Yet another article at TheInquirer: https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3084557/verizon-bl...
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7y ago
More media attention at zdnet: https://www.zdnet.com/article/verizon-kills-email-accounts-o...
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Diagon
7y ago
Yes, when a group owner wants to migrate to another platform - a bulletin board or the like - they need to be able to get all the group associated data so they can reconstitute their community.
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Diagon
7y ago
Not that I know of. Lawyers (hopefully not guns) and money would be needed. Suggestions?
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Diagon
7y ago
Probably. Now that the groups I am concerned with are migrating to our own hosted BB, we are also planning to migrate the associated FB groups away. For that, we expect to lose data in the process.
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7y ago
Thanks. We also noticed that BoingBoing picked it up. Their graphics are a bit crude - but that's BoingBoing. We're trying to be more polite here: https://boingboing.net/2019/12/08/oath-makes-you-s
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Diagon
7y ago
I have the same problem. I used some old script back in 2006 to download a couple of groups in ... I think it's Mbox format. It's just not clear what to do with it.
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7y ago
The point is they then own their data. If they want to move it to archive.org or anyplace else, they can. Unlike the situation we find ourselves in now.
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7y ago
Inertia. I'm connected with a series of groups and I tried to get people to move for years . It just doesn't seem anything happens except under pressure. Also, the scripts really have been developing during this last 2 months,
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Diagon
7y ago
Three Ways You Can Help: Help by Joining Yahoo Groups so the Archive Team can Download them (easy! - this is the link in the OP here): https://github.com/davidferguson/yahoogroups-joiner (That's the most needed
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