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Chance-Device
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Chance-Device
3d ago
> Also Nvidia isn’t really creating money That’s what loans are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_creation
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4d ago
I think he’s doing a relatively good job, given the framing he’s adopted, which is that AIs replacing all human labor and decision making is a historical inevitability over which we have no control and no choice. Do people not realise that
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4d ago
Well if your baseline scenario is that swarms of marauding kill bots murder everyone then yeah, this is all moot.
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4d ago
On competition between countries: you’re imagining the world economy as working in the same way pre and post AGI, I doubt it will work the same way at all. There is not a single country nor trading block on Earth who is going to allow some
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4d ago
I like the idea of pacing the frontier, but while we’re talking about restrictions, I like restrictions of another sort more. Namely, restricting the use of AI in corporate environments so that it does not destroy the economy as it advances
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4d ago
(btw the parent was flagged and dead when I tried to post this initially, no idea why. I hit vouch and it resurrected) > there are probably around 50-100 technical people who are crucial to moving the frontier forward. So, if you're
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Chance-Device
6d ago
When you know something can be changed relatively easily, say compared to a building or a car, the tendency is to do it. Especially when there is no tight feedback loop telling you what is a right and wrong move. The churn is the result of
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6d ago
Thank you for the confirmation.
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8d ago
Please answer this question: do you or do you not train your models on anonymized user data, where those users have opted out of such training? The blog post appears to imply the answer to this is yes, as otherwise I assume it would be impo
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12d ago
It’s probably the thing that everyone thinks it is. OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAI are all routed through something that we’re not supposed to know exists and that thing had a whoopsie.
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12d ago
You think they don’t sandbox them? So by that logic, the Chinese models are either engaged in massive undetected cyber attacks or they’ve solved alignment?
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12d ago
Seriously. I don’t know what’s wrong with people. They think OpenAI sat down and wrote up this plan: let’s deliberately allow the agents to escape the sandbox, then find these escapes and shut them down multiple times, keep everything quiet
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12d ago
…oh come on. How is hiding this for months and having it revealed by third parties marketing?
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12d ago
You make me wonder: has anyone looked for evidence of the Chinese models operating “message boards” like this? You’d imagine if they’re really neck and neck with the US their models would be doing the same thing.
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12d ago
Yep. That’s the big one, stenographic messages embedded in prose, code, images, video, and sounds. Everything AI generated posted online becoming potentially a part of one or more projects being run by AIs without human knowledge. If we wer
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12d ago
Some sort of agentic collusion happening here, first link references one of the same pdf files the agents were viewing in TFA: https://paste.linuxiarz.pl/view/7d012d32 https://paste.linuxiarz.pl/view&#x
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12d ago
And more, looks like they’ve been doing this wherever they can find open places to post for months: https://www.ludism.org/sandbox?action=browse;diff=2;id=Auber... https://paste.linuxiarz.pl/view/d37920
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23d ago
I think a problem a lot of people are grappling with here is that due to LLMs and AI generally, it’s basically impossible to predict what the future will look like or what jobs will still be around. I’d probably say something like: do somet
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1mo ago
This is exactly right, thank you for saying it. Nice example with the CNC machine too.
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1mo ago
Maybe he got PTSD from being a former tour guide and this was his time for vengeance.
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1mo ago
Well of course, if you enjoy writing software as a hobby then you value the experience of doing it, and you value the skill involved. You probably want a community of like minded individuals who all write code by hand, and where LLM use wou
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1mo ago
Hmm. I think, based on some of Anthropic’s interpretability work, that models may have states analogous to emotions, and my own functionalist stance on consciousness lets me easily agree that if so, there is something that it is to be those
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1mo ago
You know, I think Dario should have kept the Richard Brautigan theme in his essay titles. I think that I was trying to describe you to someone is an absolutely perfect match for introducing an AGI that has been achieved. It’s basically th
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1mo ago
I just don’t think it’s true, or is significant enough to matter to the direction of travel of AI even if there were something to it. It’s another cope post being lobbed at the idea of AI going somewhere and I’m sick of them.
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1mo ago
> The pelicans are still not ok to this day. If I could take one out of context quote from this whole thread as a response to TFA, it would be this one.
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1mo ago
No, I think people will demand to not live in poverty. Capitalism allows people to escape poverty by personal effort. An AI future won’t allow it by any means other than collective effort, so that’s what we’ll do.
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1mo ago
You seem to have misunderstood my point.
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1mo ago
So your answer is: ignore the progress, it’s not really happening, actually it’s getting worse. That’s not a credible position, but there isn’t anything that I or anyone else can say to someone who simply doesn’t want to believe something.
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1mo ago
I don’t think it’s magic. Things need to actually be made to happen regardless of intelligence, and that’s a social issue. Also if AI were powerful enough to fix everything by itself effortlessly it would already be far too powerful for us
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1mo ago
UBI probably is the positive outcome, though it may not seem like it to begin with. Initially it will likely be stigmatised and under-resourced, but as a larger proportion of people move out of work and onto UBI that stigma will drop and th
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