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BrandonJung
4y ago
One of the team here at Tabnine. Thank you for choosing us and please let us know if we can help.
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BrandonJung
4y ago
interesting point
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BrandonJung
4y ago
thank you you are right, I did comment in the above threads I am with Tabnine but can always do that better.
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BrandonJung
4y ago
I am biased but the update Tabnine made in the last 6 months are very interesting.
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Tabnine can train on your codebase for you AND your team. It is secure then to only you and the team you add.
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BrandonJung
4y ago
Tabnine has been doing this for years longer than copilot with more users and better ratings. Not a monopoly (except that MSFT has so much marketing clout). The LLM space that we build on has gotten much more diverse after MSFT bought Open
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BrandonJung
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Yes we at Tabnine have been at this for 7+ years and we believe that this is the current best solution. Only train on fully permissive code and then specialize those models privately for each team/org/org.
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4y ago
Does this change if the AI only uses fully permissive code? We took that approach at Tabnine and would be interested if the communities primary concern is disregard of licensing or the use of AI at all.
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4y ago
It looks like you used Tabnine local only model in the past (awesome for security, connectivity) if you used it in "cloud only" mode you would see much lower CPU and get longer snippets and completions. If you are with a company
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love the speed you are moving!
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Clarification - a user can run Tabnine on their laptop only OR as a part of Tabnine Enterprise we can run the large cloud models in your VPC (on GPU's) for your entire team of developers. Your code is your code and you can run it anyw
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If you would like a custom model on your code (or language) this is one of the unique capabilities of Tabnine. We have done this on lots of code already and do it all the time for companies across the globe. Your code is your code. Trans
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4y ago
Good feedback and thank you for taking the time to share
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Ballpark guess is that to build CODEX it would be ~$10M.
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4y ago
A model is only as god as the code that it trains on and the people it learns from. In your example above we can build a custom model on "best practices" code and not the companies codebase. Our work here has focused on working
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The code-search application is completely distinct from the IDE-assistant application. They do not share any code, have completely different pipelines for training the backend and completely different datasets. The specific source you menti
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it is likely that for the stuff you are paid for a custom model might be a better fit.
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it is a question we are always asking but not sure what people would do if they were open-sourced. Did you have a specific use case in mind?
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Cost wise the biggest spend is building the large model (CODEX for Copilot). While CODEX is close sourced there are a number of other good open source transformer models from SFDC (T5), AI21, Meta that are the foundational models we use.
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please take a look at inline suggestions that will be in grey and not in the regular autocomplete box. It is now the default setup.
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Would you be willing to share your concerns about the EULA? The pricing question is something we are currently discussing as you can imagine. It is surprising that our EULA was a problem but GitHub's was ok given they collect your in
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my guess given that I do not have significant karma points is that this is a subject that millions of devs are trying to understand more deeply (a million plus for both Tabnine and Copilot). There are two competitors with significantly dif
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no need to worry we love good feedback here at Tabnine ;-) Your observations are appreciated. In this case we are using general code and not a custom model but if you would like a custom model then I would wager you would get better variab
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feel free to turn off local completely. The bursts you are seeing is building a local transformer model on your computer. For enterprises and developers that dont want their data to go anywhere this is critical but does come with tradeoff
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Appreciate the feedback and looks like you are clearly in the developer group that wants very fast small useful completions. Can you share the modifications that you made and perhaps a few more details on what they were?
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Jacob Jackson is awesome and we loved the time we got to work with him. Brilliant dude
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You are not the only one that has said this but would love a link to a video on how you like to work with both together. Copilot uses a huge model and a ton of GPU's (and an unlimited budget) to focus on really long completions. This
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For this specific comparison, it’s essential to start from the technology, as many of the product differences stem from the differences in approach, architecture, and technology choices. Microsoft and OpenAI view AI for software developmen
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to be clear they actually took much of what Tabnine was doing and declined to let us use GPT3 (MSFT closed Open AI). It turned out to be good because there are lots of other great models out there from T5 (SFDC), Meta, Google, etc that wil
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