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Bakingpotato
3y ago
it looks all the files are unmodified, no nothing seems ported they're probably using a ruffle implementation
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
I guess the one to step in is Ruffle
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
I don't think Ruffle is HTML5. something about Web assembly and rust?
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
yeah, pretty much. they're even making new ones, too
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
true, I guess thats why Ruffle is so popular now
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
for sure. what with people making new flash stuff for the NG flash jams and all. thank goodness for Ruffle.
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
if it ever decides to work, lmao.
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
you can spoof URLs on the Ruffle desktop player, but not using the extension
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
Ruffle isn't a reverse engineered project, from what I can tell. it seems like they're following some spec, and comparing with the flash player, not decomping it
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
Ruffle has been getting pretty good. Lots of customization. I hope they can improve the performance at some point, and keep all the options.
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
There's a reason you don't see too many HTML gaming websites, it itsn't that great for games, as much as they would like it to be.
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
Absolutely. Get the authoring software, (I hear a certain animate archive has them) and post to NG like all the Flash forward jammers have Ruffle works wonders
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
you can spoof URLs on the Ruffle desktop player, but not using the extension
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
that's true. I think a few flash games did a split swf thing for DRM purposes, and yeah. look where that got them... lost media ahoy for html5
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
while that might be true, its probably more true that they want to own the internet (see: nonstandard changes within chrome, forcibly making chromium dominant, the AMP debacle) and adobe SWF files aint google
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
now that is the real flaw of flash, and the most overlooked bit. all the while people (and adobe) were making login pages and security within flash (which is insane, you don't use an animation tool for those!) they should have focused
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
and then adobe spit on all of it. what a waste, and its all on adobe.
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
nah, HTML5 was and still isn't good enough for a straight conversion, as years of flash ""alternatives"" have shown us.
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
less rose tinted glasses and more the insanity of people entrusting logins and security to flash player to start with, or even adobe for adding that in. Yknow. if it was riddled with bugs and all that, you might avoid such a thing, for
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
>adobe didn't want to pay for rewrites or bugfixes yeah, its a wonder they ever bought it to start with, then you don't just buy someone's entire workflow and then not fix any of it. not at least, if you intend for people
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3y ago
oh god, autodesk. don't remind me. exactly correct.
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
not only that, the shovelware scene proved that it was piss easy to use, and powerful (especially in the later years) see as many html5 gaming webpages lately? yeah, no. the 'death' of flash killed the browser game and rapid proto
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
yeah I remember that people demonized flash so much for that and turned a blind eye once html and javascript was given that power. jokes on them now, I guess not to mention flash content could run on a potato, while javascript is soon to se
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3y ago
yeah, a lot of flash content that was SVG exclusive can go up past 4k and look stunning, and flash was the only one around then (and debatably, now) with an editor to let someone leverage that
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3y ago
adobe was the death of flash. Macromedia had a better handle on it, and when adobe bought it, then ran it into the floor and gave up early, leaving it to rot. I don't think they could even open source it, with all the other companies&#
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
good pick.
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
amen.
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
I think you nailed it on the head with the demoscene mention. not only was this one of the only ways to get this kind of content in those days, but any ol hobbyist could and did pick it up. netflix is the farthest you can get from ever seei
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3y ago
yeah. the closest to getting flash back is Ruffle, which works pretty well, and Newgrounds does flash game jams still, so it ain't all dead
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Bakingpotato
3y ago
I don't know of too many, but there are some out there like https://hiddenpalace.org/ (though that is more related to video games).
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