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Andromxda
7d ago
That's not true. Look at their FAQ [1]: > GrapheneOS is permissively licensed and is usable for building devices with an immutable root of trust. GPLv3 is deliberately incompatible with these kinds of locked down devices, unlike GPL
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Andromxda
2mo ago
You can also use a privacy screen protector. Or use the two factor fingerprint unlock, which requires both a fingerprint and a PIN to unlock. And that's only after first unlock, so you can still use a separate, strong passphrase for BF
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Andromxda
2mo ago
And fully disable the USB port (GrapheneOS-exclusive feature). This will make it impossible to extract data with mobile forensics software/devices (such as the Cellebrite UFED).
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Andromxda
2mo ago
GrapheneOS already has an auto-reboot feature that can be set to time intervals ranging from 10 minutes to 72 hours. Rebooting puts the device back in before first unlock (BFU) state. This wipes all memory contents, including the encryption
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Andromxda
3mo ago
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116016068519170752
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Andromxda
3mo ago
This makes no sense. GrapheneOS is open source, while SailfishOS isn't. On top of that, GrapheneOS is much more secure.
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Andromxda
3mo ago
> It's still more open than AOSP Uh, no? How are you getting this idea? This is the manifest file for GrapheneOS: https://github.com/GrapheneOS/platform_manifest/blob/17/defa... It literally cont
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Andromxda
3mo ago
Straight up conspiracy theories you're spreading here. Daniel Micay is Canadian, Dmytro Mukhomor is Ukrainian (he was literally conscripted into the Ukrainian army last year), and Khalykbek Yelshibekov is from Kazakhstan. > Micay is
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Andromxda
3mo ago
1) No one is saying that. As another commenter mentioned, Android is open source. 2) The point still stands, desktop operating systems like Windows and desktop Linux distributions are much less secure than Android or iOS. Read https:/
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Andromxda
5mo ago
They're partnering with Motorola to build devices with official GrapheneOS support. https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116159602850585685
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Andromxda
5mo ago
It's open source [1], and they're pretty transparent about everything. You can ask the devs anything, and they will probably give you a really useful and informative answer. They have extensive documentation, and they're pret
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Andromxda
5mo ago
If you want an outdated, insecure, and extremely overpriced phone, sure, go ahead. It's literally 2018 hardware being sold for 800 bucks. 3 GB of RAM? Seriously? The iPhone XS, also from 2018, has 4 GB of RAM, just saying. And regardin
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Andromxda
5mo ago
That's perhaps because typical consumers don't build their own operating systems?
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Andromxda
5mo ago
They're insecure [1] and far from usable. [1] https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/linux-phones.html
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Andromxda
7mo ago
Of course the topic as a whole is much more complex than that, but I'll try to summarize it. Android has 3 systems of access control [1][2]: - Discretionary Access Control, i.e. the standard Unix file permissions - Mandatory Access Con
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Andromxda
7mo ago
No, this is incorrect. The GrapheneOS NetworkLocation client ( https://github.com/GrapheneOS/platform_packages_apps_Network... ) is using Apple's request format and performing the calculations locally, similar to ho
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Andromxda
7mo ago
Rooting is a very bad idea. https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/android.html#rootin... But GrapheneOS is fully open source and provides great build instructions, so you can always make your own build and add whatever f
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Andromxda
7mo ago
and CAN'T link the location information to any other data
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Andromxda
7mo ago
Definitely wouldn't be unheard of in the Fintech industry. But I don't know, because I don't use the service. My bank thankfully offers their own implementation of NFC payments within their own app, so I don't need to re
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7mo ago
> you can inspect the code it's running That's only true for microG itself, not the Google blobs it needs to download and execute in order to function. GmsCompat on GrapheneOS is also fully open source.[1] > For example you
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Andromxda
7mo ago
GrapheneOS doesn't support face unlocking right now, but they have a useful two-factor unlock option that requires both a PIN, and biometrics (currently a fingerprint on Pixel devices) to unlock the device while in AFU. It also allows
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Andromxda
7mo ago
> Graphene IIRC keeps a compatibility list somewhere. This is the community-maintained banking app compatibility list: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...
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7mo ago
> Curve Pay refused to give me an account on my Murena FP6 That's probably because /e/OS uses microG, which is vastly inferior to Sandboxed Google Play on GrapheneOS, and has much worse app compatibility. You should also k
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Andromxda
7mo ago
> Are you sure about this? It was my understanding that NFC passes for gyms and stuff worked This is only true for Google Wallet. It can be used as a normal wallet app for stuff like plane tickets, etc., but Google Pay requires the OS to
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Andromxda
7mo ago
Starling Bank has been officially supporting GrapheneOS using Android's hardware attestation API (not the Play Integrity API) since 2024.
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Andromxda
7mo ago
Starling Bank has been officially supporting GrapheneOS using Android's hardware attestation API (not the Play Integrity API) since 2024.
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Andromxda
7mo ago
There are several banks, especially over here in Europe, that have their own implementations of contactless payments, if that's what you mean. Here's a German article outlining this and mentioning a few examples: https:/
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GrapheneOS bails on OVHcloud over France's privacy stance
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Andromxda
11mo ago
It's totally possible that there will be an option to buy the device with GrapheneOS preinstalled https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114749924008111970
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11mo ago
It definitely won't be Fairphone. See https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-stand... https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115379774100353715 and https://grapheneo
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