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AlexMax
6y ago
As somebody who used PHP through that transition, I have to say that the 5-7 (skipping 6) transition was especially well handled from my perspective. There was certainly breakage, but the amount of things you had to fix was relatively smal
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> We're at 12 years of Wayland and counting and the thing still isn't really usable outside a very narrow use-case. Must be a wide narrow you're talking about. I've been using it as my default session across two diff
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Good for them. Does this mean we're going to get a GNOME 4 as well? I'm quite curious to see what neat things the new version of GTK enables in practice.
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6y ago
Regardless of the bike-shedding over the exact syntax, this would be really cool to see. I have no clue how C/C++ made it into 2020 without this language feature - and yes, I know about incbin and xxd, and Go having it ahead of those
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6y ago
The goal of climate change denialists is to deny climate change by any excuse necessary. If the hot button topic wasn't the existence of different gender identities, they'd find something else as a wedge issue.
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6y ago
Sorry, but I think this is a poisonous, thought-terminating cliche. Python has had multiple ways of doing many things for a very long time, and the longer you program in any language, the more you realize there are often many solutions to a
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6y ago
> You seem to lack empathy for people who's content is being removed from these platforms. I lack empathy not because I disagree with their politics, but because "getting booted out of a social space on the internet" seems
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> What that signals to me is that practically they should be considered a speech platform I'm not really sure what problem you're solving here. The social space is too big to moderate effectively, so hamstringing what little p
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6y ago
> How can filtering infringe free speech? People can say whatever they want, but why should I have to hear them? Simple. There's people agitating for free speech on idealistic terms, and then there's people agitating for free
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> And yeah, we also need usable and effective filtering, so everyone can choose what to see. I'd be careful about mentioning filtering. I just remembered that there was a Reddit Masstagger that helped folks with that filtering, but
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6y ago
> I am saying that the concession that we need to moderate "dirty" behavior is, in and of itself, the rhetoric that validates the mob behavior we're seeing. I think that's a stretch. The problem with Twitter isn'
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6y ago
To be clear, are you saying that if I don't agree with preserving the abstract freedom of expression on private social spaces, I am pro angry mob destroying peoples lives?
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6y ago
> Exactly. Because once everything isn't protected, someone gets to choose. So what we need are systems where content can't be removed, and users can't be banned, by design. This is naive at best. I know of no social spac
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6y ago
And? What did people expect would happen? You cannot trust large corporations with those kinds of discussions. The thing is, I don't think the solution is to force Reddit to host those kinds of subreddits - the solution it to find or
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Actually it does matter, if we want to be honest about why we're even having this conversation. Deplatforming and banning doesn't happen because of some abstract whim, so defending it in abstract terms sans context seems like it&#
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> Further exasperating the issue is the fact we deplatform people with opposing opinions. Now Reddit is even removing people who upvote stories or comments differ from their ideology. What are the opposing opinions and the differing ideo
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6y ago
> A karma system Upvoting and downvoting can and have been gamed by users and groups of users. It's a fine distraction to drive engagement in a social media space, but you cannot delegate moderation to the crowd without it turning
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6y ago
> highly engaged moderation This in particular. It took me a very long time to recognize how important this was, but looking back the very best social spaces I've ever been in have all had reasonable standards of moderation with mo
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6y ago
Free speech crowd wants another thread to try and convince onlookers that banning people from online communities for people expressing "free speech" is a bad idea.
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> TS feels like something that was created to lure programmers who couldn’t wrap their heads around JS loose nature. Almost like it was created to convince Java and C# developers to use JS. On the contrary, as somebody who learned progra
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> I was actually censored from a certain platform for defending stallman's right to express what he thinks regarding pedophilia. So? I've been booted from platforms over way less justifiable reasoning than that. When that hap
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6y ago
> Trashing a person's reputation and character through a targeted internet campaign (hello Twitter mobs) is another matter. Isn't that also free speech? Or should free speech only apply to the first hypothetical individual stu
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6y ago
So I've been sitting in this comment thread for a while and something has been bothering me. I'm noticing two things that are consistently brought up: 1. Free speech as some sort of abstract enlightenment ideal. 2. Cases of clear
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> The problem is that even that perspective is your personal bias which you're using to justify censorship To clarify, are you asserting that hiding political advertisements - either by not allowing them like Twitter or by giving pe
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> The Internet has been "toxic and racist" since, oh, the first chat room... In any respectable community, those sorts of people tend to get unceremoniously ejected from the community - from IRC channels to web forums to commun
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> I'm not sure how best to fix that. At a certain scale, I think threaded conversations are incredibly difficult to follow without a voting system to sort it out, and once you introduce a voting system you end up with voting system
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Frankly, I don't see what's so funny. I don't presume to know if EEE is Microsoft's strategy here, but if it is, do you think a fleeting moment of amusement at Linux's comeuppance is worth the damage done to the lar
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I don't like political authoritarianism apologia no matter where it's coming from. I've seen both neo-nazis and stalinist tankies overrun and completely ruin communities and I don't care for either. An internet communit
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Of all the problems that the_donald had, their exclusion of dissenting voices was not one of them. They made it abundantly clear what kind of sub it was, and I think even codified it in the rules. And I don't quite follow your second
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I just found it strange that _all_ of the examples were anti-trump, especially when various conservative pro-trump subreddits were guilty of the exact same thing. And frankly, I'm A-OK with communities having heavy-handed moderation no
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