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3y ago
> I'm not sure a single "framework" would work for everyone. I guess you weren't lying because that is not what a web framework is. If it works for just me, that's a web framework. The fact that there are so many
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If you see the alternatives as moderate the thread or ignore it all, I agree with you. But for me the alternatives are moderate the thread or allow them to drag me into a hundred debates about a hundred different things. I was going to part
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I do not agree with your characterization of what's occurring here. See the person above us: >You're a fool if you think that the way reddit handles content moderation does not create angry people. I never said that. And they&#
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Someone argued they maximize outraged. I argued that they do not. I don't think it's pedantic at all to say the goalposts are whether or not they maximize outrage. I totally understand that the word's 'Reddit' and &
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That was the final straw, yes. And if they were seeking to maximize outrage, they wouldn't have done that.
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3y ago
> I don't know about reddit enough and just struggling to even guess the context here. Reddit is extremely massive. With uber millions of people on it. And anyone can make a subreddit about anything. And they get extremely specific.
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As per my original comment: >Is either platform successful in their attempts? Arguably, no. But that wasn't my point, I was addressing the claim that they seek to maximize outrage.
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I was responding to someone else who said it. They did say '...whose business model depends on...outrage'. So ya, that interpretation is the logical one. If your business model depends on something, you would be optimizing for max
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> No, what I'm saying is they maximize outrage, but pretend that they care about civility. Then you're wrong. They don't just pretend to care, they take actions. I've already given several examples. > You yourself
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i said they do not seek to maximize outrage. please keep the goalposts right there and address only that one specific argument. as it's the only argument i'm making.
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I addressed a very specific claim someone made - that they seek to maximize outrage. And that is all I addressed. I am not interested in broadening the scope and defending everything about every social media platform - as that's what t
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3y ago
Here are the goalposts: 'seek to maximize outrage' Please do not add any extra words to that, thus shifting the goalposts. Here you have added the word 'profit'. I never said anything about profit.
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3y ago
I'm unsure if you're making some kind of argument or just adding a footnote. If that's an argument, it doesn't change anything about what I said.
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3y ago
So what you're saying is deep down they wish they could maximize outrage but they don't because they want to appease advertisers and regulators. We're not disagreeing. I wasn't speaking to what's in their heart, onl
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You're supporting my argument. You're saying it's not in their best interests to maximize outrage. That's where the goalposts are and that's where they are going to stay: whether or not they seek to maximize outrage
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A good example of what? A platform not seeking to maximize outrage? Yes. They banned the Donald Trump subreddit. That one subreddit produced more outrage than probably everything else in the history of Reddit combined. And they banned it. A
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Edit: thought of a better example - Donald Trump getting banned from most social media. If they were seeking to maximize outrage, they wouldn't do that. They'd assign an employee to moderate everything he posted if they had to, bu
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> That is a very disingenuous way to describe signups. I wasn't describing signups, I was specifically describing the Quora signup. People have been bitching about that for almost 15 years and nobody who actually uses and likes Quor
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a) that isn't what's keeping them. people don't stay somewhere because things that bother you, don't bother them. you didn't name anything they like about it. b) the mandatory signup meme is and has always been ridi
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That's my impression of Quora today too. It was such a special place in the early years. Sad to see what they let happen to it. The saddest part is that it's surely deliberate. They have some really, really smart people working th
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I think you just set the World Record for most strawmen in one comment. Congratulations. If you took what I said to be some type of blanket 'Reddit is a perfect and wonderful place' you misunderstood.
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Man, HN has sure changed. Clearly I'm not among fellow hackers if people are worried about tone rather than truth. If someone needs their ass kissed to recognize I'm right, that's on them. Not me.
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> There is no "Reddit culture"; on Reddit, culture is scoped to a subreddit. There is both. For example, anonymity. There is nothing stopping people from using their real name as their username or openly revealing who they are
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> These subreddit can be as varied in response as humans can I've never been anywhere on Reddit that doesn't have the specific characteristic that I'm referring to. If people think you are wrong, they tell you. If they thi
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Probably what's happening is I'm doing a poor job of communicating what I mean. To me if I say 'they aren't always right' that's enough and I have clearly articulated that Reddit can be and is on a regular basi
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lol parroting what they say on social media. Very interesting way you put that and sorta gets to the heart of the matter. To me it doesn't even make sense, like, why would I get my information on social media. I'm telling you what
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> Are you talking about specific subreddits or topics? I'm talking about the culture of the entire site. From tiny subreddits to huge ones and every topic. > I’ve found the negativity on Reddit to be more likely as to come from c
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That was an extremely biased and jaded characterization that focuses only on a narrow set of negatives. Have those things happened on Reddit? Ya. Was that in any way an accurate summary of what Reddit is? No. And it's absurd to claim t
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I guess it depends at what point you buy. A lot of people on Reddit got generational fuck you money betting on GME, Bitcoin and a lot of other stuff. But if you're getting your Reddit tips from CNN then ya you're probably too late
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