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by 2-tpg 5y ago
You can ban me then (or just let this be my last post). This HN user spend a year blasting the lab leak hypothesis, going so far as to point to Wikipedia's allowed sources, to try to suppress a submitted link here. Claiming the submitt
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
It is also frustrating to hear: - Ah.. It came from the meat market (official positions) - Likely from live bats - Who are not sold at that meat market - Who are hybernating - Who come from a cave 900 miles away Yes, yes, but what if inste
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
SARS-CoV in its natural form is an interesting bioweapon. No known treatment or vaccine. Targets the decision makers (presidents and ministers and military generals are older, and a virus is easier to reach them, than a bullet is). SARS-CoV
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
> SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 make really poor bioweapons Often heard this, including from experts in bioscience (I am not one, you sound more like it). So early on I did a search on Google Scholar for things like: SARS bioweapon to see what
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
We know that patient 0 was not at the market, and that people at the market got infected. So, perfectly valid scenario: 1. Scientists do controversial Gain-of-function research by collecting viruses from miles away and importing them to Wuh
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
> If the virus was from an animal source known to the lab, we would know already Unless they started commanding to destroy samples, and sharing sequences of captured bats after the pandemic started. > it would be quite unlikely for th
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
> How is this possible? I can think of only a few scenario's where China messed up and the West remains silent. One would be where personal interests or blackmail would cause the decision makers to change their tune. A plausible one
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
Deadlines are calculated from the average worker speeds. Perhaps some Amazon employees really are below average, or do not give it their best at all, so they are forced to piss in bottles and poop into the delivery car before returning it t
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
Agreed. But if Turing left a letter with the motive, or was known depressed or irrational, then I would not question the hypothesis that Turing was driven to suicide. Right now I can not see it as the fact it is presented as. I'd like
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
> it goes far beyond employees peeing in bottles. No, but solid rhetorics. This is the part you give proof of the fact that Amazon have their workers pee in bottles to meet deadlines. Not point to something else entirely that goes far be
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
> the fact that Amazon warehouse / delivery employees have to urinate in bottles to meet deadlines? Amazon does not want its employees to piss into bottles. But sometimes employees (predominantly male I hope) do piss into bottles, b
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
Could you give the support that it was the hormone treatment that drove Turing to suicide? It is a commonly accepted interpretation, but there is not much support for it these days (even the suicide is questioned now, pinning it as an accid
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
Turing was a soldier. His mind was sharp as a blade. That's why the English government/military was involved with him. Infantry soldiers joke about the army owning you: giving you a fine for damaged government property, when you b
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
> This is once again completely wrong, WHO messaging was to prioritize masks A tale of two billboards: https://i.redd.it/uv1iz4w4sgk41.jpg https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/28ce46391425d4b406f
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
For diversity and inclusion in AI papers, they bring up facts like "All of the top 10 most-cited AI researchers are men" and then posit this as bad, and in support of a 50%-50% gender representation in AI. Like in: The field still
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
Interesting, thanks. Lots of information there, and this should all be investigation better.
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
It was not hindsight. Those expats were interviewed ("locked in Wuhan") and broke the "official" timeline. In my mind, it can not be excused that China either: did not know about H2H, when the West, as an outsider, was w
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
> ROME (Reuters) - The new coronavirus was circulating in Italy in September 2019, a study by the National Cancer Institute (INT) of the Italian city of Milan shows, signaling that it might have spread beyond China earlier than thought.
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
Peter Daszak was also signatory to this weird paper "in support of Chinese scientists". > We sign this statement in solidarity with all scientists and health professionals in China who continue to save lives and protect global
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
Another thing of note. A large percentage of the opposition to the lab leak hypothesis seems to stem from anti-Trump sentiment. In January 2020 the media first mentioned and entertained the lab leak hypothesis (interviewing military intelli
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
For myself, the biggest circumstantial evidence I've seen is the manipulation of discourse on social media by state-sponsored trolls and bots. Whenever the downvote bots, US #metoo, charges of racism, and astroturfing begins, there is
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
Believe whatever you want. If you believe the zoonotic origin, ok sure, but your circumstantial evidence for that is weaker than the circumstantial evidence for a lab leak. Yes. You are supposed to believe the administration of a president
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
"Did not see evidence of tampering" is too weak to trust for me. Military-funded scientific biowarfare research should be different (use different, more advanced, tools) than run-of-the-mill bioinformatics research which US scient
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
Established fact. Biowarfare is often coated as "defense": we need to develop vaccines for future viruses or engineered pathogens. The offense is top secret. SARS-COV are classed Category C pathogen by CDC, in line with Hanta viru
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by 2-tpg 5y ago
If you put two columns: zoonotic transfer, lab leak. And you list circumstantial evidence for both. Your zoonotic transfer column will be terribly empty in comparison. There is no patient 0, and the wet market was not the source, and we sti
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by 2-tpg 6y ago
> I never heard this discussed as a big "risk". As far as I know this was always more or less known to be the endgame and not even a dangerous outcome but the "good" scenario. The endgame is for the virus to turn into
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by 2-tpg 6y ago
Made way more complicated that it basically depends on what China did to restart Wuhan or Russia did to push through Sputnik (How much did these vaccines shed? Poor answers right now!). All of America can be mRNA while SARS-nCov keeps evolv
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by 2-tpg 6y ago
Maybe China can help with a cite. They did have a 5-6 month head start and first encountered: brain-blood barrier pass, blood cloths and brain/lung aneurisms, reinfection, patient 0, airborne COVID, effect of mask wearing, pets getting
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by 2-tpg 6y ago
You are correct. The pandemic may end after about 20-30 months, but this novel coronavirus will stick around. It is going to be a community virus, such as the Spanish flu turned into seasonal influenza. People pushed back hard against the e
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by 2-tpg 6y ago
> Denmark has seen a steady increase in immigration over the past 30 years, with the majority of new immigrants originating from non-Western countries. As of 2014, more than 8 percent of the population of Denmark consists of immigrants.

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