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Starting to play sound without user confirmation is a default tab-close. I wont even take the time to look at it. Bonus point for not being flash that hijacks t
by pmr_ 11y ago
Starting to play sound without user confirmation is a default tab-close. I wont even take the time to look at it. Bonus point for not being flash that hijacks the browser shortcut.
- trymas 11y ago+1. When I come to HN, I usually read all topics on the front page, then open interesting ones in tabs. After opening 10 tabs, I hear music, then I find the culprit, close the tab, do not look back. Never play music without user permission.
- rosstex 11y agoBye. Use Chrome. Or use less tabs. Or focus on one at a time.
- pmr_ 11y agoWhy should I adapt my usage patterns to accommodate the shitty behavior of a few websites? Also, are you sure you are in position to tell other people how to use the web? I certainly don't think I am.
- prawn 11y agoYou clicked a link that said Listen to Wikipedia! I know I expected audio when I clicked it.
- pd1 11y agoListen could imply that we need to listen to Wikipedia's message. I was expected an essay honestly.
- adaml_623 11y agoIf you are randomly clicking on links on a website like this then you have no justification to describe a website as shitty for doing the one thing it is designed to do. There's a website called rainymood.com and it does one thing and asking for user confirmation first would be quite silly.
- cbd1984 11y agoWe have justification if we're not warned beforehand.
- edem 11y ago+1 I'm not adapting either.
- michaelx386 11y agoIt would be good to have a "click to unmute" option as the default for how a browser handles audio. Click to play works well for Flash plugins, it might be good for audio as well.
- agumonkey 11y agoI wish for a time disabled extension. Basically turning the browser into an html/css based image renderer. No more animated ads, autoplay audio/video. Heaven.
- cheetos 11y agohttps://noscript.net/ https://noscript.net/
- agumonkey 11y agoDoesn't avoid animated gifs ;)
- JadeNB 11y agoI'm sure you're joking, but here's a blast from the past (I'd forgotten about it, anyway): you can set `image.animation_mode` to `none` in Firefox for that.
- agumonkey 11y agoI wasn't even joking, I'd really love to try purely static (beside the old guard <a> <form> elements) webpages and am delighted there's such an option, this is amazing, thanks.
- JadeNB 11y agoI'm glad it was helpful! In case you're interested in the other hidden switches that you can toggle if you're willing to void your warranty, there's a reference at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entr... . (I'm not sure how up to date it is, though.)
- Ianvdl 11y agoThe sound is not particularly intrusive or loud, and you clicked on a link that said "Listen" in the title. Generally I dislike websites that randomly start playing sound (and follow the same tab-close behaviour), but this was not ill-advertised or unexpected.
- pmr_ 11y agoAs others I had a totally different expectation given the title. I thought it would be a piece about how Wikipedia had some message or lesson that we should listen to. I think the author had no bad intentions and what he build is probably worth looking at. I was just pointing out how a mistake in web design made me completely ignore this website because I felt it violated my control over my computer.
- Ianvdl 11y agoIn that case I wonder if we can't solve the problem in the community, e.g. by requiring a [sound] tag in the title or something. I enjoyed this link and there is a risk of people downvoting it for the sound alone that might cause interesting links like it to be removed in the future.
- icebraining 11y agoI'd prefer [autoplay], but I support the idea!
- DanBC 11y agoI sometimes post links to BBC Radio programmes. I tag those with [audio], but they are not autoplaying. HN: should I continue to tag those? I haven't ever submitted anything with autoplaying audio, but I imagine I'd use [autoplay] or similar.
- JadeNB 11y ago> In that case I wonder if we can't solve the problem in the community, e.g. by requiring a [sound] tag in the title or something. I enjoyed this link and there is a risk of people downvoting it for the sound alone that might cause interesting links like it to be removed in the future. Solving it in the community can solve the problem of people unwittingly stumbling upon it from here, but it doesn't solve the bigger problem, which is that autoplay is rude. (Surely we've all had the experience of not being able to find the tab from the huge group we just opened that's playing the sound.) It's good if sites see that they get fewer visitors with autoplay than without.
- ggreer 11y agoWhile I agree with the sentiment, in this case all I can say is: You're missing out. I enjoyed the relaxing, ambient-ish sounds combined with tempting links to Wikipedia articles. I'm not sure there is a good solution to auto-playing. People are fine with it on well-known sites like YouTube, Vimeo, Soundcloud, etc. And most people, when they unwittingly click on a YouTube link, blame the person who made the link, not the site itself. Bizarrely, the target of ire shifts to the site if it's not popular enough.
- ersii 11y agoHow do you know that most people are fine with automatic playback on popular sites like YouTube, Vimeo and Soundcloud? (Genuine question, as you stated it as a matter of fact. Not trying to be obtuse or annoying.)
- pmr_ 11y agoI just went clicking randomly on Vimeo links and I didn't find a single auto-playing video. You are right about YouTube and I actually think they should handle visitors that come from outside YouTube differently than visitors from inside the site. In the first case auto-play is annoying in the second it is what is wanted.