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Is gogs dead?

37 points by dilipray 11y ago

nrub 11y ago
A month of inactivity and an issue that is 12 days old, and someone is trying to fork the project under a new name? Seems kind of fickle and impatient. Gogs is a great project, and that thread doesn't seem to imply that it's dead only on a brief hiatus. If development resumes will the new fork merge back in, or will it try to compete?
- x5n1 11y ago
  you never know... let it be, the perils of open sourcing your shit.
  - anon3_ 11y ago
    Sure. Technically and legally, you could package that code up and sell it. The maintainer didn't just make a simple fork. He renamed it, bought a domain, all behind the owners back while he's on vacation. From an etiquette standpoint, I wouldn't want to work with a maintainer who just hijacks projects. Based on the behavior I've seen, I'm saddened to see this. This project's contributors are Chinese: https://github.com/gogits/gogs/graphs/contributors https://github.com/gogits/gogs/graphs/contributors. The gross majority of the commits come from a few people - the project has been around for years. And over a period of a few weeks, this happened, by an outsider. They are probably gfw'd and have difficulty finding a VPN.
    - x5n1 11y ago
      Usually quick and dirty, actually no most forks, don't go anywhere... because of the immense amount of effort needed. Once in a while forks become things like WordPress... but not too often.
- anon3_ 11y ago
  In my opinion, this isn't a fork, but a naked hijacking: - No really consensus / official decision on the issue - http://gitea.io/ http://gitea.io/ - "Git with a cup of tea," When it's done so fast, it feels like a coup. I understand the right to fork a project, but for a maintainer to be AFK from issues for a few weeks to necessitate a fork is harsh.
  - dilipray 11y ago
    Exactly, He didn't even give the other guy credits on his work.
    - MaulingMonkey 11y ago
      In the description: "forked from Gogs" Readme.md's Acknowledgments and Contributors sections appear to still be in place, with the credit-improving (IMO) change of replacing the link text "core team" to "gogs team". What else would you expect? The github forked-from notice if you use the github button instead of git to fork, I guess? Anything else?
    - tboerger 11y ago
      Why? There is still the version history and the admins of the organizations are the top contributors beside of Unknwon ;). I just started to contribute smaller pieces...
      - anon3_ 11y ago
        Why the wink? I'm trying to figure out if your devoid of the nuance of open source politics, or if you're a huge risk taker.
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  - garthk 11y ago
    Now it's serving or proxying gogs.io.
  - invaliduser 11y ago
    There is nothing harsh about forking a project. This is exactly the intent of the original license choosen explicitly by the author(s). Have you read the licence ? Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions If the author did not want any fork, they would have chosen another one. period. People should learn about open source before starting bitching and whining about "hijacking". Hijacking, really ? That's not even possible with opensource: forking, sharing, modifying, that's _exactly_ the open source spirit and it's actually backed by the license.
- skybrian 11y ago
  It's impatient only if it's a permanent fork. If they merge it in once he gets back, no harm done. Not sure why it showed up here, though.
  - MaulingMonkey 11y ago
    > It's impatient only if it's a permanent fork. If they merge it in once he gets back, no harm done. The forked readme.md replaces the contact email in: "If you think there are vulnerabilities in the project, please talk privately to u@gogs.io. Thanks!" That doesn't seem like a temporary fork maneuver.
fortytw2 11y ago
As they say, the creator is abroad, probably doesn't have much time to work on it. Far from dead, by any stretch of the imagination.
untog 11y ago
What's the problem with @Unknwon being in the states? Don't they have internet access there? Sigh. I don't know, maybe he's on holiday and you're not entitled to demand a response from him?
- anon3_ 11y ago
  He studies / works in the USA. He's chinese. He may be back home in China for vacation. Github + gmail is blocked by gfw
  - ideal0227 11y ago
    Github is not blocked.
    - yarrel 11y ago
      No, just DDOSed - http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/04/ddos-attacks-that-crippled-github-linked-to-great-firewall-of-china/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/04/ddos-attacks-that-cr...
  - xiaq 11y ago
    Come on. GFW does not make an actual difference for a decent programmer...
    - untog 11y ago
      Yeah but circumnavigating the firewall is illegal, no? Even if you're an amazing programmer it still might not be worth doing it if all you're going to do is reply to some Github issues.
astockwell 11y ago
I'm even more skeptical of the fork's intentions given that the fork-er has never even contributed code to gogs [1]. [1] https://github.com/gogits/gogs/graphs/contributors https://github.com/gogits/gogs/graphs/contributors
- tboerger 11y ago
  Where did you get this crap? @lunny and @fuxiaohei have created the fork and they are the admins. They are the main contributors to gogs with @Unknwon...
tboerger 11y ago
Really interesting how the people start to bitch around even if they don't know any background story. The two guys that created the fork of Gogs are cofounders of Gogs abd they have been in the organization for a long while... Unknwon does some other stuff now and seems to not care about gogs anymore and as far as i know he's not willing to accept other contributors or people in the organization that gauns write access. So now there is the fork Gitea which gets lots of attention and already multiple bugfixes. The for months outstanding feature of pull requests will be done pretty soon as well. Ah, and I forgot to mention that the project title still shows that it's a gogs fork beside of some files that are still named gogs.
- tboerger 11y ago
  I forgot to mention that I'm one of the gitea maintainers now and that there is some other communication beside of the issues as well like gitter chat or email ;)
  - xvilka 11y ago
    I wish you luck, gogs is a very nice project. I hope the gogs + drone will become a faster alternative to GitLab + GitLab CI
    - tboerger 11y ago
      Thanks! When @lunny finishes the outstand pull request feature it should be a real alternative as it is damn lightweight. There are already plans to im prove the UI as well :)
    - sytse 11y ago
      GitLab CEO here, we did some informal performance testing comparing GitLab and Gogs and we could not find a big difference in most operations. The only thing that was slow was the web-editor and everything else to do with satellites, we'll remove satellites from the web-editor in 7.13 and will work to completely remove them from GitLab. What speed difference stood out for you?

37 points by dilipray 11y ago

nrub 11y ago

A month of inactivity and an issue that is 12 days old, and someone is trying to fork the project under a new name? Seems kind of fickle and impatient. Gogs is a great project, and that thread doesn't seem to imply that it's dead only on a brief hiatus. If development resumes will the new fork merge back in, or will it try to compete?

x5n1 11y ago
you never know... let it be, the perils of open sourcing your shit.
- anon3_ 11y ago
  Sure. Technically and legally, you could package that code up and sell it. The maintainer didn't just make a simple fork. He renamed it, bought a domain, all behind the owners back while he's on vacation. From an etiquette standpoint, I wouldn't want to work with a maintainer who just hijacks projects. Based on the behavior I've seen, I'm saddened to see this. This project's contributors are Chinese: https://github.com/gogits/gogs/graphs/contributors https://github.com/gogits/gogs/graphs/contributors. The gross majority of the commits come from a few people - the project has been around for years. And over a period of a few weeks, this happened, by an outsider. They are probably gfw'd and have difficulty finding a VPN.
  - x5n1 11y ago
    Usually quick and dirty, actually no most forks, don't go anywhere... because of the immense amount of effort needed. Once in a while forks become things like WordPress... but not too often.
anon3_ 11y ago
In my opinion, this isn't a fork, but a naked hijacking: - No really consensus / official decision on the issue - http://gitea.io/ http://gitea.io/ - "Git with a cup of tea," When it's done so fast, it feels like a coup. I understand the right to fork a project, but for a maintainer to be AFK from issues for a few weeks to necessitate a fork is harsh.
- dilipray 11y ago
  Exactly, He didn't even give the other guy credits on his work.
  - MaulingMonkey 11y ago
    In the description: "forked from Gogs" Readme.md's Acknowledgments and Contributors sections appear to still be in place, with the credit-improving (IMO) change of replacing the link text "core team" to "gogs team". What else would you expect? The github forked-from notice if you use the github button instead of git to fork, I guess? Anything else?
  - tboerger 11y ago
    Why? There is still the version history and the admins of the organizations are the top contributors beside of Unknwon ;). I just started to contribute smaller pieces...
    - anon3_ 11y ago
      Why the wink? I'm trying to figure out if your devoid of the nuance of open source politics, or if you're a huge risk taker.
      - deleted 11y ago
        [deleted]
- garthk 11y ago
  Now it's serving or proxying gogs.io.
- invaliduser 11y ago
  There is nothing harsh about forking a project. This is exactly the intent of the original license choosen explicitly by the author(s). Have you read the licence ? Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions If the author did not want any fork, they would have chosen another one. period. People should learn about open source before starting bitching and whining about "hijacking". Hijacking, really ? That's not even possible with opensource: forking, sharing, modifying, that's _exactly_ the open source spirit and it's actually backed by the license.
skybrian 11y ago
It's impatient only if it's a permanent fork. If they merge it in once he gets back, no harm done. Not sure why it showed up here, though.
- MaulingMonkey 11y ago
  > It's impatient only if it's a permanent fork. If they merge it in once he gets back, no harm done. The forked readme.md replaces the contact email in: "If you think there are vulnerabilities in the project, please talk privately to u@gogs.io. Thanks!" That doesn't seem like a temporary fork maneuver.

fortytw2 11y ago

As they say, the creator is abroad, probably doesn't have much time to work on it. Far from dead, by any stretch of the imagination.

untog 11y ago

What's the problem with @Unknwon being in the states? Don't they have internet access there? Sigh. I don't know, maybe he's on holiday and you're not entitled to demand a response from him?

anon3_ 11y ago
He studies / works in the USA. He's chinese. He may be back home in China for vacation. Github + gmail is blocked by gfw
- ideal0227 11y ago
  Github is not blocked.
  - yarrel 11y ago
    No, just DDOSed - http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/04/ddos-attacks-that-crippled-github-linked-to-great-firewall-of-china/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/04/ddos-attacks-that-cr...
- xiaq 11y ago
  Come on. GFW does not make an actual difference for a decent programmer...
  - untog 11y ago
    Yeah but circumnavigating the firewall is illegal, no? Even if you're an amazing programmer it still might not be worth doing it if all you're going to do is reply to some Github issues.

astockwell 11y ago

I'm even more skeptical of the fork's intentions given that the fork-er has never even contributed code to gogs [1]. [1] https://github.com/gogits/gogs/graphs/contributors https://github.com/gogits/gogs/graphs/contributors

tboerger 11y ago
Where did you get this crap? @lunny and @fuxiaohei have created the fork and they are the admins. They are the main contributors to gogs with @Unknwon...

tboerger 11y ago

Really interesting how the people start to bitch around even if they don't know any background story. The two guys that created the fork of Gogs are cofounders of Gogs abd they have been in the organization for a long while... Unknwon does some other stuff now and seems to not care about gogs anymore and as far as i know he's not willing to accept other contributors or people in the organization that gauns write access. So now there is the fork Gitea which gets lots of attention and already multiple bugfixes. The for months outstanding feature of pull requests will be done pretty soon as well. Ah, and I forgot to mention that the project title still shows that it's a gogs fork beside of some files that are still named gogs.

tboerger 11y ago
I forgot to mention that I'm one of the gitea maintainers now and that there is some other communication beside of the issues as well like gitter chat or email ;)
- xvilka 11y ago
  I wish you luck, gogs is a very nice project. I hope the gogs + drone will become a faster alternative to GitLab + GitLab CI
  - tboerger 11y ago
    Thanks! When @lunny finishes the outstand pull request feature it should be a real alternative as it is damn lightweight. There are already plans to im prove the UI as well :)
  - sytse 11y ago
    GitLab CEO here, we did some informal performance testing comparing GitLab and Gogs and we could not find a big difference in most operations. The only thing that was slow was the web-editor and everything else to do with satellites, we'll remove satellites from the web-editor in 7.13 and will work to completely remove them from GitLab. What speed difference stood out for you?