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This feedback makes it clear that acting feminine is considered a weakness, instead of a strength. You shouldn't be ashamed to look beautiful, wear dresses and
by spcoll 12y ago
This feedback makes it clear that acting feminine is considered a weakness, instead of a strength. You shouldn't be ashamed to look beautiful, wear dresses and make-up, and present cute slides with a pink theme and occasional kitty picture.
This is what the whole "like a girl" is about: if you express your femininity in the things you do and the way you look, people associate that with incompetence.
- TazeTSchnitzel 12y agoExactly. If you were to make a stereotypically "masculine" presentation, you wouldn't get negative comments on it.
- thomasmarcelis 12y agoPink just is a bright colour. Bright colours can distract if used plenty. I've had the same comment on using too many yellow.
- sgift 12y agoBlack and yellow, beloved combination of many Star Wars fans, also known as "death of readable presentations" (yes, I got that comment and I've learned to never do this again)
- Alphasite_ 12y agoWhat, blue with tanks all over it? I think you'd get more than a couple of comments.
- hderms 12y agowhat would be a stereotypically masculine presentation? not trying to bait or anything, I'm just curious what that would be? Some kind of bro-ish stuff included?
- nightski 12y agoThis is so not true. Suits are heavily discriminated against in our industry. If you wear a suit to a conference you probably won't get much attention. EDIT: I must go to the wrong programming conferences, never see suits. Wish the down voters would just share their experiences!
- Bahamut 12y agoI did not downvote, but I personally don't have any issues with people wearing suits - wear what you like. Only thing I've disliked seeing are popped collars, but more as a warning sign to stay away from the people wearing them if I can help it. I also do not penalize for dress during interviews either. It's a distraction from the important things, and irrelevant to the answers to the questions of coding ability and culture fit.
- Roboprog 12y agoDepends. Am I at an H/P conference, or Atlassian? Different crowds. Aside: Atlassian is more interesting. H/P has better food.
- TTPrograms 12y agoSo you believe that a presentation can be identified with a gender?
- JDiculous 12y agoWhat you just said only applies to the pink slides comment. Excess fidgeting and uptalk are gender-neutral and make a presentation weaker whether you're male or female.
- falcolas 12y agoBright colors in slides, whether pink, blue, purple, or orange, is distracting in a presentation. It takes attention off the information being presented and puts it on the design choices. Visual ticks - wringing your hands, messing with your hair, licking your lips - make you appear less confident, and has nothing to do with gender. The vocal tick - making every sentence sound like a question - is distracting no matter who presents it. These aren't gender specific criticisms in any way. Regardless, unless you're addressing a gender specific topic, why bring your gender into it in the first place? I'm interested not in the person presenting about algorithms, but the algorithms themselves. A man would be rightly chastised for presenting a de-duplicaton talk with bright pastel blue slides, pictures of beer, and rubbing his forehead while presenting, why shouldn't a woman?
- wongarsu 12y agoI don't think cute things are seen as sign of weakness. At least I haven't seen anyone complain that some octocat was too cute for a professional company like github.