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Hater News – Now for Twitter and Reddit

42 points by KevinMcAlear 12y ago

valarauca1 12y ago
I find the algorithm very funny because this tweet: >Spike Lee produced a Bernie Mac, Cedric the Entertainer, and Steve Harvey comedy special? Was apparently one of my worst.
- m0nty 12y ago
  My worst one was "You can buy them" with URLs to a couple of posters (the sort you put on your wall).
- KevinMcAlear 12y ago
  It just means that you don't have insulting comments that it can find. Hover over titles with asterisks to better understand the context of your score and worst comment when you get your score, it just finds the "worst" one out of the bunch and if you don't have a bad comment then it just brings back something like that lol. :)
- pgsandstrom 12y ago
  My worst one was a quotation: "Every moron can pick up CSS and PHP; apparently, every moron did pick them up."
- tokenizerrr 12y ago
  For me it was: > You're a shit comment. On reddit. So that at least seems accurate!
keerthiko 12y ago
Broken for network = HackerNews. All usernames including the suggested one and my own return the "Hmm That's probably not a real username." etc. And then some random youtube video plays in the background. And there's a "Still crunching numbers" animation (when I modify the css on the page to hide the overlay). And then "Something broke, sorry :(" and then back to home.
- KevinMcAlear 12y ago
  Whoops! Sorry about that... It is fixed now, thanks for the heads up. :) I just ran your name and it's now working.
jacob019 12y ago
love it! Would like to see some stats. How much hater is the average user?
AndrewKemendo 12y ago
Interesting. My Mr. Rogers result is reassuring I suppose. I like my most insulting comment: "Very useful. Can you add links to amazon/hulu/torrents?" Sounds like someone tried to build a sarcasm detector.* *Will this be my new most insulting comment?
- sciurus 12y ago
  Yes, my worst comment surprised me: "That sounds like a good approach; reimplementing an existing API like EC2 or DO makes it easier to integrate your software with tools like Vagrant and Terraform." Maybe the words "reimplementing" or "existing" triggered it? For you, maybe it was "torrents"?
  - danielki 12y ago
    It might be assuming Vagrant in the "homeless person" sense?
- JimmyM 12y ago
  From other comments it looks like terse sentences, intensifiers and popular brand names are factors, which would explain that comment.
egypturnash 12y ago
My theoretically worst recent tweet: Someone on this bus has lost "Don't Shit Your Pants".
milankragujevic 12y ago
Interesting. However, my most insulting comment doesn't appear to be that insulting: (it's not like I've been very active on HN) "Either your CPU is too fast or too slow. I can't really fix anything since I don't have a Mac to test with. It works fine on Windows."
- zamalek 12y ago
  Seems as though it's a recursive troll attempt. Me on Reddit: "The first step is to stop hating yourself, you are your foundation for your own success..." Clear troll comment. I've said much, much, worse on Reddit.
Khao 12y ago
My worst comment on Reddit : "Are you stupid?" Sounds about right. Edit : Damn now I'm worrying this will become my worst HN comment too. Double Edit : Just ran it again and now it's my worst comment on HN.
stared 12y ago
IPython Notebook is here: http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/kevinmcalear/hater_news/blob/master/haterz_classification.ipynb http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/kevinmcalear/hater_news/b... (to author: maybe this link instead of link to its source? accessibility...).
- KevinMcAlear 12y ago
  Thanks I'll update the README :)
ericcumbee 12y ago
I'm not sure how my tweet of "Nothing encourages you to finally fix your backups like a kernel panic during a OS update." qualifies as hate?
- weavie 12y ago
  This has now become your most hateful comment..
drivingmenuts 12y ago
Apparently, I'm not a real person ... :(
- moystard 12y ago
  I have the same problem when looking for my username on Twitter.
  - belthasar 12y ago
    Putting an @ before my twitter handle made it work for me.
- mmahemoff 12y ago
  This seems to be the default error message that's shown when the queue's too full to analyse a user. Which is probably not a great thing when the site's busy being upvoted on HN.
  - drivingmenuts 12y ago
    Now I'm tempted to Yelp that sucker and become the most hated person ever on one of the services. Basically, get them to change the subject of Godwin's Law.
abhididdigi 12y ago
Concept is nice, landing page and the website are nice. What needs more work is the algorithm for determining hate. Almost all the comments that Hater News chewed out of my Reddit username were not at all* trolling. Indeed some statements were even contributing to the discussion.
emhart 12y ago
Is there an upper limit to the number of characters this will analyze? I've gotten into arguments here & on reddit that, while civil, are certainly more vitriolic than what the script found. All I can think is that longer diatribes are ignored? From HN: "I've researched the "why" and a couple years ago had the opportunity to discuss some of the broader ideas in the history & anthropology of locks. It was actually titled "Why do you lock your door?" -emhart From reddit: "Very glad you dropped in. Nice to have someone with first hand experience offer this up, thanks." -schuylertowne From twitter: "Here is the US patent filing for that taiwanese lock, so you can see the illustrations: https://t.co/K7F3aY6RTD" https://t.co/K7F3aY6RTD" -shoebox
lukasm 12y ago
The Worst Comment* "How many languages you know - that many times you are a human."
- goostavos 12y ago
  One of mine was (truncated) "What an amazing fucking museum! ... Fat man and Little Boy earrings" which was in reference to the Atomic Bomb Museum in Las Vegas. I guess I hit the key words of calling something "fat," and dropping the f-bomb. The "troll rate" across all my accounts is 3.X.. which is interesting. Because I'm definitely a little more.. "lively" on some accounts than others (for instance HN compared to Reddit). I would have expected one to be much higher than the other.
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rohunati 12y ago
it's unable find my twitter un.
UUMMUU 12y ago
"didn't your teacher question why you were using a calculator for english class?" I'm naughty on Reddit :D
viggity 12y ago
a lot of the links to reddit comments are broken, if the title of the page in reddit has a slash in it, the slash is not being ommited/escaped in the URL and so reddit can't find it. Sample: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6dnve/Top%20Comedian%20Believes%20In%209/11%20Conspiracy/c03k7tl http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6dnve/Top%20Comedi... is broken because it has a slash in the title (9/11) Killing that slash fixes it: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6dnve/Top%20Comedian%20Believes%20In%20911%20Conspiracy/c03k7tl http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6dnve/Top%20Comedi...
- KevinMcAlear 12y ago
  Thanks! I'll fix this ASAP.
Karunamon 12y ago
Cool, but it doesn't take retweets, @replies, and quoted replies into account. My worst comments over on Reddit are where I quote someone else who said something mean, and the same goes for Twitter. And the results for HN are truly head-scratching. Use of the word "fucking" regardless of context is apparently enough to elevate a comment to "worst" status. (Watch me get a few points just for this comment alone!) Don't get me wrong, this is a neat tool, but it's going to be misused in character assassinations on others, especially with its current presentation, where phrases are used like "troll score", "most insulting" and so on. I'd really suggest toning that presentation down and emphasizing the fact that this is imperfect until the algorithm has been tweaked further.
debacle 12y ago
My worst comment on reddit is insulting a Canadian for not liking hockey and insinuating that they don't have an appreciation for maple syrup. I'm interested in how it manages to calculate this, because I'm a complete asshole on reddit sometimes.
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Dewie 12y ago
Funny that almost all your submissions/post here have to do with haternews.
Sailfish 12y ago
I hatez Hater News
cfontes 12y ago
My worst phrase "This looks nice... Are you open to H1B or remote?"
BrianEatWorld 12y ago
Only Twitter worked for me, but it was kind of cool to read some long forgotten tweets. I don't really understand the periodic table concept. My first thought was that it grouped your insults into types, like logical fallacies versus outright insults. I feel like that would be more useful for introspection.
Xeoncross 12y ago
My worst comment: "Yep, working less than 30 hrs really gives you a chance to live life. I take less pay and only have to work a half week." Pretty much all of my "hater" comments were like this. Many were helpful answers to problem.
- pmelendez 12y ago
  He is probably just making a corpus of negative words, where "less" and "only" probably have negative connotations. This is the problem with this kind of analysis, extracting it properly from context is really hard
pmelendez 12y ago
Apparently, this is a negative comment: "What do you with a bunch of books and an empty pod? A racing track of course! http://bit.ly/1wThvTK http://bit.ly/1wThvTK " -pmelendezu "
- noobermin 12y ago
  My worst HN comment was "Freaking Hilarious. You made my day, sir." I guess I'm back in Catholic grade school where "freak" was a strong word.
michaelmior 12y ago
> Click on a box to see the comment in Reddit. This appears also when using Twitter.
path411 12y ago
My worst tweet is insulting myself. (To be fair I rarely use twitter anyway). I wonder if self insults are weighted any different than regular ones. "I feel dumb for never thinking of using %2π"
dang 12y ago
We took "Show HN" out of the title. That's for when you're introducing a project, not adding new features. Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html.
- KevinMcAlear 12y ago
  Oops sorry! Didn't realize that.

42 points by KevinMcAlear 12y ago

I find the algorithm very funny because this tweet: >Spike Lee produced a Bernie Mac, Cedric the Entertainer, and Steve Harvey comedy special? Was apparently one of my worst.

m0nty 12y ago
My worst one was "You can buy them" with URLs to a couple of posters (the sort you put on your wall).
KevinMcAlear 12y ago
It just means that you don't have insulting comments that it can find. Hover over titles with asterisks to better understand the context of your score and worst comment when you get your score, it just finds the "worst" one out of the bunch and if you don't have a bad comment then it just brings back something like that lol. :)
pgsandstrom 12y ago
My worst one was a quotation: "Every moron can pick up CSS and PHP; apparently, every moron did pick them up."
tokenizerrr 12y ago
For me it was: > You're a shit comment. On reddit. So that at least seems accurate!

keerthiko 12y ago

Broken for network = HackerNews. All usernames including the suggested one and my own return the "Hmm That's probably not a real username." etc. And then some random youtube video plays in the background. And there's a "Still crunching numbers" animation (when I modify the css on the page to hide the overlay). And then "Something broke, sorry :(" and then back to home.

KevinMcAlear 12y ago
Whoops! Sorry about that... It is fixed now, thanks for the heads up. :) I just ran your name and it's now working.

jacob019 12y ago

love it! Would like to see some stats. How much hater is the average user?

AndrewKemendo 12y ago

Interesting. My Mr. Rogers result is reassuring I suppose. I like my most insulting comment: "Very useful. Can you add links to amazon/hulu/torrents?" Sounds like someone tried to build a sarcasm detector.* *Will this be my new most insulting comment?

sciurus 12y ago
Yes, my worst comment surprised me: "That sounds like a good approach; reimplementing an existing API like EC2 or DO makes it easier to integrate your software with tools like Vagrant and Terraform." Maybe the words "reimplementing" or "existing" triggered it? For you, maybe it was "torrents"?
- danielki 12y ago
  It might be assuming Vagrant in the "homeless person" sense?
JimmyM 12y ago
From other comments it looks like terse sentences, intensifiers and popular brand names are factors, which would explain that comment.

egypturnash 12y ago

My theoretically worst recent tweet: Someone on this bus has lost "Don't Shit Your Pants".

milankragujevic 12y ago

Interesting. However, my most insulting comment doesn't appear to be that insulting: (it's not like I've been very active on HN) "Either your CPU is too fast or too slow. I can't really fix anything since I don't have a Mac to test with. It works fine on Windows."

zamalek 12y ago
Seems as though it's a recursive troll attempt. Me on Reddit: "The first step is to stop hating yourself, you are your foundation for your own success..." Clear troll comment. I've said much, much, worse on Reddit.

Khao 12y ago

My worst comment on Reddit : "Are you stupid?" Sounds about right. Edit : Damn now I'm worrying this will become my worst HN comment too. Double Edit : Just ran it again and now it's my worst comment on HN.

stared 12y ago

IPython Notebook is here: http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/kevinmcalear/hater_news/blob/master/haterz_classification.ipynb http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/kevinmcalear/hater_news/b... (to author: maybe this link instead of link to its source? accessibility...).

KevinMcAlear 12y ago
Thanks I'll update the README :)

ericcumbee 12y ago

I'm not sure how my tweet of "Nothing encourages you to finally fix your backups like a kernel panic during a OS update." qualifies as hate?

weavie 12y ago
This has now become your most hateful comment..

drivingmenuts 12y ago

Apparently, I'm not a real person ... :(

moystard 12y ago
I have the same problem when looking for my username on Twitter.
- belthasar 12y ago
  Putting an @ before my twitter handle made it work for me.
mmahemoff 12y ago
This seems to be the default error message that's shown when the queue's too full to analyse a user. Which is probably not a great thing when the site's busy being upvoted on HN.
- drivingmenuts 12y ago
  Now I'm tempted to Yelp that sucker and become the most hated person ever on one of the services. Basically, get them to change the subject of Godwin's Law.

abhididdigi 12y ago

Concept is nice, landing page and the website are nice. What needs more work is the algorithm for determining hate. Almost all the comments that Hater News chewed out of my Reddit username were not at all* trolling. Indeed some statements were even contributing to the discussion.

emhart 12y ago

Is there an upper limit to the number of characters this will analyze? I've gotten into arguments here & on reddit that, while civil, are certainly more vitriolic than what the script found. All I can think is that longer diatribes are ignored? From HN: "I've researched the "why" and a couple years ago had the opportunity to discuss some of the broader ideas in the history & anthropology of locks. It was actually titled "Why do you lock your door?" -emhart From reddit: "Very glad you dropped in. Nice to have someone with first hand experience offer this up, thanks." -schuylertowne From twitter: "Here is the US patent filing for that taiwanese lock, so you can see the illustrations: https://t.co/K7F3aY6RTD" https://t.co/K7F3aY6RTD" -shoebox

lukasm 12y ago

The Worst Comment* "How many languages you know - that many times you are a human."

goostavos 12y ago
One of mine was (truncated) "What an amazing fucking museum! ... Fat man and Little Boy earrings" which was in reference to the Atomic Bomb Museum in Las Vegas. I guess I hit the key words of calling something "fat," and dropping the f-bomb. The "troll rate" across all my accounts is 3.X.. which is interesting. Because I'm definitely a little more.. "lively" on some accounts than others (for instance HN compared to Reddit). I would have expected one to be much higher than the other.

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rohunati 12y ago

it's unable find my twitter un.

UUMMUU 12y ago

"didn't your teacher question why you were using a calculator for english class?" I'm naughty on Reddit :D

viggity 12y ago

a lot of the links to reddit comments are broken, if the title of the page in reddit has a slash in it, the slash is not being ommited/escaped in the URL and so reddit can't find it. Sample: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6dnve/Top%20Comedian%20Believes%20In%209/11%20Conspiracy/c03k7tl http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6dnve/Top%20Comedi... is broken because it has a slash in the title (9/11) Killing that slash fixes it: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6dnve/Top%20Comedian%20Believes%20In%20911%20Conspiracy/c03k7tl http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/6dnve/Top%20Comedi...

KevinMcAlear 12y ago
Thanks! I'll fix this ASAP.

Karunamon 12y ago

Cool, but it doesn't take retweets, @replies, and quoted replies into account. My worst comments over on Reddit are where I quote someone else who said something mean, and the same goes for Twitter. And the results for HN are truly head-scratching. Use of the word "fucking" regardless of context is apparently enough to elevate a comment to "worst" status. (Watch me get a few points just for this comment alone!) Don't get me wrong, this is a neat tool, but it's going to be misused in character assassinations on others, especially with its current presentation, where phrases are used like "troll score", "most insulting" and so on. I'd really suggest toning that presentation down and emphasizing the fact that this is imperfect until the algorithm has been tweaked further.

debacle 12y ago

My worst comment on reddit is insulting a Canadian for not liking hockey and insinuating that they don't have an appreciation for maple syrup. I'm interested in how it manages to calculate this, because I'm a complete asshole on reddit sometimes.

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Dewie 12y ago

Funny that almost all your submissions/post here have to do with haternews.

Sailfish 12y ago

I hatez Hater News

cfontes 12y ago

My worst phrase "This looks nice... Are you open to H1B or remote?"

BrianEatWorld 12y ago

Only Twitter worked for me, but it was kind of cool to read some long forgotten tweets. I don't really understand the periodic table concept. My first thought was that it grouped your insults into types, like logical fallacies versus outright insults. I feel like that would be more useful for introspection.

Xeoncross 12y ago

My worst comment: "Yep, working less than 30 hrs really gives you a chance to live life. I take less pay and only have to work a half week." Pretty much all of my "hater" comments were like this. Many were helpful answers to problem.

pmelendez 12y ago
He is probably just making a corpus of negative words, where "less" and "only" probably have negative connotations. This is the problem with this kind of analysis, extracting it properly from context is really hard

pmelendez 12y ago

Apparently, this is a negative comment: "What do you with a bunch of books and an empty pod? A racing track of course! http://bit.ly/1wThvTK http://bit.ly/1wThvTK " -pmelendezu "

noobermin 12y ago
My worst HN comment was "Freaking Hilarious. You made my day, sir." I guess I'm back in Catholic grade school where "freak" was a strong word.

michaelmior 12y ago

> Click on a box to see the comment in Reddit. This appears also when using Twitter.

path411 12y ago

My worst tweet is insulting myself. (To be fair I rarely use twitter anyway). I wonder if self insults are weighted any different than regular ones. "I feel dumb for never thinking of using %2π"

dang 12y ago

We took "Show HN" out of the title. That's for when you're introducing a project, not adding new features. Please read https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html https://news.ycombinator.com/showhn.html.

KevinMcAlear 12y ago
Oops sorry! Didn't realize that.