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> And, of course, if you seriously mis-step in either pursuit it can cost you the farm. The trick is not to do that. Moreover (and much less commonly reported

by nmjohn 12y ago

> And, of course, if you seriously mis-step in either pursuit it can cost you the farm. The trick is not to do that. Moreover (and much less commonly reported on) you can do just about everything wrong, and still get lucky. A good poker player knows they got lucky and shouldn't have won the hand. I've seen too many times cases where someone has a successful exit and think that means they now are experts, attributing 100% of the success to themselves. Then they don't understand why their next startup fails miserably when they do everything the same.

sejje 12y ago
> A good poker player knows they got lucky and shouldn't have won the hand. Possibly nitpicking, but a good poker player is unconcerned with whether or not they won the hand (from a strategic standpoint). They're worried about the expected value of the course of action they chose, and how to maximize EV at every decision. Poker players actually do commonly report on this phenomena, however they report on it inaccurately--most report that they made their poor decision (which ultimately won) for a particular reason. Some intuition if they made a lucky guess about their opponent, perhaps, or a feeling if they had a lucky outcome, or (unknown to them) miscalculated "pot odds." I've found that in the same way that most people believe they are good poker players, or above average drivers, people tend to believe that they are good at anything where skill and talent is not directly obvious (basketball, for instance), or start believing that long before they are actually good at it. Looking up local photographers on FB is one of my favorite pastimes for this reason.
- bostik 12y ago
  > Possibly nitpicking, but a good poker player is unconcerned with whether or not they won the hand (from a strategic standpoint). Well, even a decent player will cringe when they realise they got the money in with bad odds. When this happens a couple of times in a row, they may start to question their own ability. It's easy to shrug off a couple of bad beats as "running against the top of opponent's range". Hit a string of these hands and suddenly you're beginning to question your reads. Has the tone of the table changed and you missed it? Do you need to adapt quickly and if so, how? And perhaps most important of all, have you already done that without realising it? In the long run the game is an infinite series of calculated risks. There is no trick to winning, other than having a strong enough bankroll, and to be better than majority of the field. In this context, bankroll also includes mental capacity to deal with the blows. As long you're doing everything, or even most things right, probabilities will catch up. It doesn't make the game any easier, though.

by nmjohn 12y ago

sejje 12y ago

> A good poker player knows they got lucky and shouldn't have won the hand. Possibly nitpicking, but a good poker player is unconcerned with whether or not they won the hand (from a strategic standpoint). They're worried about the expected value of the course of action they chose, and how to maximize EV at every decision. Poker players actually do commonly report on this phenomena, however they report on it inaccurately--most report that they made their poor decision (which ultimately won) for a particular reason. Some intuition if they made a lucky guess about their opponent, perhaps, or a feeling if they had a lucky outcome, or (unknown to them) miscalculated "pot odds." I've found that in the same way that most people believe they are good poker players, or above average drivers, people tend to believe that they are good at anything where skill and talent is not directly obvious (basketball, for instance), or start believing that long before they are actually good at it. Looking up local photographers on FB is one of my favorite pastimes for this reason.

bostik 12y ago
> Possibly nitpicking, but a good poker player is unconcerned with whether or not they won the hand (from a strategic standpoint). Well, even a decent player will cringe when they realise they got the money in with bad odds. When this happens a couple of times in a row, they may start to question their own ability. It's easy to shrug off a couple of bad beats as "running against the top of opponent's range". Hit a string of these hands and suddenly you're beginning to question your reads. Has the tone of the table changed and you missed it? Do you need to adapt quickly and if so, how? And perhaps most important of all, have you already done that without realising it? In the long run the game is an infinite series of calculated risks. There is no trick to winning, other than having a strong enough bankroll, and to be better than majority of the field. In this context, bankroll also includes mental capacity to deal with the blows. As long you're doing everything, or even most things right, probabilities will catch up. It doesn't make the game any easier, though.