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For those of you who choose Pros over Airs; why does a Pro serve you better than an Air? Is it because it's your only machine, and you need the hardware to be b

by bfwi 12y ago

For those of you who choose Pros over Airs; why does a Pro serve you better than an Air? Is it because it's your only machine, and you need the hardware to be beefy?

seanmcdirmid 12y ago
Retina. Once you stop seeing pixels, it's painful to start seeing them again.
- shortnamed 12y ago
  *distinguishing
- rbanffy 12y ago
  I second that. My MBPr13, while natively having a screen equivalent to the 800x1280 of the old 13, is now configured to the 1050-line display once found on the 17 inch model and it still looks great. Once you can't see the pixels, the display becomes infinitely flexible.
- swah 12y ago
  Ì'm waiting for the retina iMac/display, because working without external mouse and keyboard never worked for me (and 15" is probably too small for the desktop)
  - rbanffy 12y ago
    I have mine on a stand, plugged to a large screen, with an external trackpad and a Microsoft Natural keyboard. The next step is to upgrade the display to 4k.
  - seanmcdirmid 12y ago
    Pity, apple has the best trackpad. My wife is also waiting for the iMac UHD, though I'm tempted to buy a samsung 28" UHD myself.
- weland 12y ago
  Post-1999 life is amazing, isn't it?
- deleted 12y ago
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hyperliner 12y ago
I got an Air, then I got a Pro and "forgot" to return my Air. My wife reminds me every day.
- swombat 12y ago
  Hello hyperliner, This is your wife. We need to have a serious chat tonight.
jackvalentine 12y ago
I'm still a few years away from replacing this 2012 Air, but when I do it'll be to something with a retina screen because of cramped gross asian characters. http://i.imgur.com/1RgQSOc.png http://i.imgur.com/1RgQSOc.png http://blog.gatunka.com/2009/11/03/japanese-computers-still-living-it-8-bit/comment-page-1/ http://blog.gatunka.com/2009/11/03/japanese-computers-still-...
gregschlom 12y ago
For me yes, it's because it's my only machine and I need good hardware for game development. (13" MBP)
jameswilsterman 12y ago
Wanted 15" and retina
andyfleming 12y ago
I chose an air a while back, and it has been fantastic for a lot of things. However, now I'm considering going back to the pro. The biggest limitation for me is the single thunderbolt port. If I want to connect to ethernet, a display, or other thunderbolt devices (like an audio interface I have), I can only connect to one. Even on the 13" MBP, I can connect all three since there are two thunderbolt connections plus HDMI. The other biggest limitation has been video performance and CPU performance. I've ran into performance issues with virtualized boxes for local development and also with connecting an external display. As far as retina, I could care less. It's nice, but not a necessity for me. Also, you get more battery life without it. That said, I'll still be moving to a MBP.
zenpaul 12y ago
The screen size! The day they announce the 15" Air I'm there.
- imdsm 12y ago
  I asked about this, and it's against the concept of the Air. The reason being that it becomes unportable. Was there a 15" air, I'd have gone for it, but there wasn't, so I went with a 15" MBP. I like it, but it does get hot, and is quite heavy compared to the airs. I'm happy with it but I think they're missing a trick!
gordeh 12y ago
It was a simple choice for me, much better screen and high specs generally without a huge compromise on cost or weight. I went from an 11in Macbook Air to the 13 MBP retina and I've not regretted it once. I carry my laptop around all day and I've not noticed the extra weight.
taude 12y ago
Mostly for GPU needs. Also, my 15" Pro must stay cooler because the fan almost never comes on (except doing something GPU intensive). The AIRs around me always seem to have a fan humming, though the noise isn't nearly as bad as it used to be. (I'm on a non-Retina, but that's not a big deal to me)
computerjunkie 12y ago
Screen estate on the go (specifically the 15inch). And like what seanmcdirmid said, the retina display looks good. I'm impressed with the the 15inch retina starting specification. All the 15inch models come with 16GB of RAM for a starting price of £1,600. I always tell everybody if your doing graphical work or video production, get a desktop setup. The Intel isis pro GPU is more than enough for the work I do. extra £300 an average discrete mobile GPU on a laptop is not worth it.
scott_karana 12y ago
Pixel density, better colour gamut, and more peripheral hookups. (The one thunderbolt on the Air means no Ethernet + Display at the same time, unless you're using a USB adapter... for which there are only two ports)
extra88 12y ago
Comparing only the 13" models, you get 2 Thunderbolt ports so you can use an external display and Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter at the same time. Actually if you use HDMI for your display you can use a Thunderbolt drive as well. The 13" Retina is only .5 lbs heavier than the 13" Air. It still has integrated video but it's a generation better than the current Air's.

by bfwi 12y ago

For those of you who choose Pros over Airs; why does a Pro serve you better than an Air? Is it because it's your only machine, and you need the hardware to be beefy?

seanmcdirmid 12y ago

Retina. Once you stop seeing pixels, it's painful to start seeing them again.

shortnamed 12y ago
*distinguishing
rbanffy 12y ago
I second that. My MBPr13, while natively having a screen equivalent to the 800x1280 of the old 13, is now configured to the 1050-line display once found on the 17 inch model and it still looks great. Once you can't see the pixels, the display becomes infinitely flexible.
swah 12y ago
Ì'm waiting for the retina iMac/display, because working without external mouse and keyboard never worked for me (and 15" is probably too small for the desktop)
- rbanffy 12y ago
  I have mine on a stand, plugged to a large screen, with an external trackpad and a Microsoft Natural keyboard. The next step is to upgrade the display to 4k.
- seanmcdirmid 12y ago
  Pity, apple has the best trackpad. My wife is also waiting for the iMac UHD, though I'm tempted to buy a samsung 28" UHD myself.
weland 12y ago
Post-1999 life is amazing, isn't it?
deleted 12y ago
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hyperliner 12y ago

I got an Air, then I got a Pro and "forgot" to return my Air. My wife reminds me every day.

swombat 12y ago
Hello hyperliner, This is your wife. We need to have a serious chat tonight.

jackvalentine 12y ago

I'm still a few years away from replacing this 2012 Air, but when I do it'll be to something with a retina screen because of cramped gross asian characters. http://i.imgur.com/1RgQSOc.png http://i.imgur.com/1RgQSOc.png http://blog.gatunka.com/2009/11/03/japanese-computers-still-living-it-8-bit/comment-page-1/ http://blog.gatunka.com/2009/11/03/japanese-computers-still-...

gregschlom 12y ago

For me yes, it's because it's my only machine and I need good hardware for game development. (13" MBP)

jameswilsterman 12y ago

Wanted 15" and retina

andyfleming 12y ago

I chose an air a while back, and it has been fantastic for a lot of things. However, now I'm considering going back to the pro. The biggest limitation for me is the single thunderbolt port. If I want to connect to ethernet, a display, or other thunderbolt devices (like an audio interface I have), I can only connect to one. Even on the 13" MBP, I can connect all three since there are two thunderbolt connections plus HDMI. The other biggest limitation has been video performance and CPU performance. I've ran into performance issues with virtualized boxes for local development and also with connecting an external display. As far as retina, I could care less. It's nice, but not a necessity for me. Also, you get more battery life without it. That said, I'll still be moving to a MBP.

zenpaul 12y ago

The screen size! The day they announce the 15" Air I'm there.

imdsm 12y ago
I asked about this, and it's against the concept of the Air. The reason being that it becomes unportable. Was there a 15" air, I'd have gone for it, but there wasn't, so I went with a 15" MBP. I like it, but it does get hot, and is quite heavy compared to the airs. I'm happy with it but I think they're missing a trick!

gordeh 12y ago

It was a simple choice for me, much better screen and high specs generally without a huge compromise on cost or weight. I went from an 11in Macbook Air to the 13 MBP retina and I've not regretted it once. I carry my laptop around all day and I've not noticed the extra weight.

taude 12y ago

Mostly for GPU needs. Also, my 15" Pro must stay cooler because the fan almost never comes on (except doing something GPU intensive). The AIRs around me always seem to have a fan humming, though the noise isn't nearly as bad as it used to be. (I'm on a non-Retina, but that's not a big deal to me)

computerjunkie 12y ago

Screen estate on the go (specifically the 15inch). And like what seanmcdirmid said, the retina display looks good. I'm impressed with the the 15inch retina starting specification. All the 15inch models come with 16GB of RAM for a starting price of £1,600. I always tell everybody if your doing graphical work or video production, get a desktop setup. The Intel isis pro GPU is more than enough for the work I do. extra £300 an average discrete mobile GPU on a laptop is not worth it.

scott_karana 12y ago

Pixel density, better colour gamut, and more peripheral hookups. (The one thunderbolt on the Air means no Ethernet + Display at the same time, unless you're using a USB adapter... for which there are only two ports)

extra88 12y ago

Comparing only the 13" models, you get 2 Thunderbolt ports so you can use an external display and Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter at the same time. Actually if you use HDMI for your display you can use a Thunderbolt drive as well. The 13" Retina is only .5 lbs heavier than the 13" Air. It still has integrated video but it's a generation better than the current Air's.