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Yeah, all this design talk is grossly underwhelming.
by jaxytee 12y ago
Yeah, all this design talk is grossly underwhelming.
- psbp 12y agoIt's great design, but I got really excited for a new screen technology.
- boomzilla 12y agoIs it me, or the new design looks like Windows Metro?
- aroch 12y agoThey took the shapes and layout of Metro and the color palette of iOS7/8
- hackinthebochs 12y agoGoogle is just shameless when it comes to android. It's entire history has been one of "me too".
- VikingCoder 12y agoEverything after Douglas Engelbart's Mother of All Demos has been shameless "me too". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zz1SwCTCEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zz1SwCTCEE
- hackinthebochs 12y agoNot really. My point is that Google has never had any design vision with android and simply responds to the movements of the other big names in the phone business with their "me too" offering. It's hard to deny this fact. It's also interesting how the same exact sentiment elsewhere in this thread gets upvoted.
- hueving 12y agoYou probably got down-voted because you didn't offer any examples. You could swap Apple for Google in your sentence and it would carry just as much weight.
- mattmanser 12y agoNo it wouldn't, what a ridiculous thing to say. The iPhone came out of nowhere and was a revelation, Android was a hastily (very well) assembled clone. Were you not around when they came out?
- hueving 12y agoYes, I was there when apple stole the idea of a touch screen phone from Nokia and Palm, what's your point?
- actsasbuffoon 12y agoI don't want to get involved in this flame war, but Apple began development of the Newton (a mobile device with a touch screen) in 1987. Palm wasn't even founded until 1992.
- barbs 12y agoYou still haven't offered any examples.
- hackinthebochs 12y agoI was replying TO THE EXAMPLE. What is wrong with some of you people?
- _broody 12y agoEveryone is derivating from Metro UI now. I can't complain, I quite like the look. Funny that Microsoft, in this day an age would be such a trend setter!
- Cakez0r 12y agoMicrosoft are making all the right moves recently. I think they're going to really make a resurgence with Nadella at the wheel!
- _random_ 12y agoYes, and it seems Apple is slowly becoming the pre-2013 Microsoft. Funny times!
- discreteevent 12y agoIf you've been around long enough you would probably say - normal times. It's fun here in the tech tumble dryer.
- mastersk3 12y agoWonder if you could elaborate more on this for someone not a hardcore techie
- Cakez0r 12y agoSure. The things I've noticed since Nadella took over from Ballmer: * They're obviously putting a lot of effort into listening to their customers and implementing their feedback (see windows 8.2 changes, start bar is coming back, metro apps will now be windowed) (also see this article by Gabe at Penny arcade about how Microsoft implemented his feedback for the Surface Pro 3 http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2014/06/16/surface-pro-3-update http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2014/06/16/surface-pro...). * They realise the cloud is the future and they're making great strides towards making sure Azure is the best cloud platform available. I've used Amazon's AWS, Rackspace and Azure. Azure is hands down the best. Nadella was formerly in charge of Azure, so it's no surprise that Azure is coming to the forefront of Microsoft. The interface for their new cloud control panel is excellent (http://portal.azure.com http://portal.azure.com https://i.imgur.com/SxdPZjf.png https://i.imgur.com/SxdPZjf.png). * Developers, developers, developers is back in season! They're open sourcing everything. ASP.NET, MVC, their new C# compiler are all now open source. The UI library they used to make the website above is open source (WinJS https://github.com/winjs/winjs https://github.com/winjs/winjs). They are making obvious efforts to engage the developer community. * Whilst everybody else is scrambling to create walled gardens and closed platforms, Microsoft is going in the opposite direction. All of their recent open source releases have been on Github, not Codeplex. You can provision linux virtual machines, mysql database, redis caches on azure - as well as the Microsoft equivalents. They just announced they're making an Android handset after acquiring Nokia, as well as Windows Phone. They've announced that they will start supporting officially supporting Mono (open source version of their .NET clr) with new releases of ASP.NET, allowing ASP.NET applications to run on open source platforms. * Their share price is the highest it's been in 15 years EDIT: * And as much as I hate to admit it (I haven't personally switched browsers or search providers yet...) but they're actually fixing the problems with Bing and Internet Explorer, and seem to be rapidly catching up with the pack. The new developer tools for IE actually look pretty good (http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ie/bg182326.aspx http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ie/bg182326.aspx) and Bing is not looking too shabby either.
- wildpeaks 12y agoIt's not just you, it definitely reminded me of Metro and Codrops demos.
- _random_ 12y agoEspecially their design page: http://www.google.com/design http://www.google.com/design "[Google Manager]: Guys... Could you make it modern, like Microsoft Metro, but maybe decrease the padding between tiles and maybe add some blurry shadows." "[Designers]: but shadows are a violation flat design principles!" "[Google Manager]: I am sorry, but we cannot come across like complete rip-offs".
- DigitalJack 12y agoWe need 7 red lines. All orthogonal, two with green ink and the rest with transparent ink.
- Glide 12y agoAnd can one of the lines be in the shape of a kitten?
- shadesandcolour 12y agoWell here's the problem, you're using a blue pen.
- esteth 12y agoIt's not flat design at all. They spent like 3/4 of the design segment in the keynote talking about how everything has a depth, and how things cast shadows on each other. Have we reached a point where anyone using color is ripping off windows? :/
- xster 12y agoMetro isn't flat either. There's a Z axis and objects get pushed back when you tap on them.
- jsz0 12y ago> looks like Windows Metro? Superficially yes but it's really just a new coat of paint on top of a slightly revised UI. My eyes instantly glaze over looking at these screenshots because we have this boring font combined with a boring use of whitespace with little variation in text size. It's all the bad parts of Metro / Modern UI without any of the good parts.
- kordless 12y agoAnd everything has a big picture of something smaller in the foreground behind it.
- ChrisClark 12y agoI feel iOS 7 was a mix of Metro and Holo. And Material/Paper is now a mix of iOS7 and Holo.
- niix 12y agoNothing new under the sun. We've been using box shadows on the web for years.
- IBM 12y agoYep. The "Google is getting better at design..." doesn't seem to be true. They've really doubled down on this cards UI which is unfortunate.
- zxcvvcxz 12y agoSeriously. I'll never understand how people can continuously get so excited about new "design". From my point of view, if you're competing heavily on design then you're in the business of a commodity and hence have no better technological or use-case differentiator... And/or you're swept up by the cult of design as of late.