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That's nice, but when almost every other civilized country in the world is at less than 0.25 gun-related homicides per 100,000, we have a long, long ways to go.
by RazorCrusade 12y ago
That's nice, but when almost every other civilized country in the world is at less than 0.25 gun-related homicides per 100,000, we have a long, long ways to go.
- ahomescu1 12y agoWhy do people care about "gun-related homicides" so much? Homicide is bad regardless of how it's done, I wonder how the US stands in overall homicides versus other countries.
- dllthomas 12y agoFor whatever it's worth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentiona...
- jessaustin 12y agoInteresting: USA is fifth-lowest in the Western Hemisphere. If nearly all of the Americas (and Africa!) are considered high, perhaps the colonial history plays a role? This wouldn't really be a factor you could blame on current political systems.
- ahomescu1 12y agoI wonder how much it is due to the drug cartels and gangs.
- bane 12y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#Homicide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#Hom...
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- RazorCrusade 12y agoI was just counter-pointing what the article seems to be touting as a huge positive, specifically from the research they cite: http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/files/2013/05/firearms_final_05-2013.pdf http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/files/2013/05/firearms_final_.... The "49% decline" is based on gun-related homicides per 100,000 people. I never intended for that to be taken as "gun homicides are the only homicides that matter". That's silly.
- ahomescu1 12y ago> I never intended for that to be taken as "gun homicides are the only homicides that matter". That's silly. I didn't interpret things as extremely as that, I just feel that I don't think the distinction really matters (as long as someone got murdered, I'm not sure it matters whether it was by gun). What also bothers me is that numbers on gun homicides feel to me like pro- or anti-gun propaganda, which is annoying either way.
- dfc 12y agoThe US homicide data is pretty easy to look up. The homicide rate in China is the country that I wonder about.
- dethstar 12y agoThere's just no way to prevent this. http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this,36131/ http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-way-to-prevent-this-says...
- shortsightedsid 12y ago> almost every other civilized country in the world. Eh? Not sure what you mean by civilized country. If you mean a richer country vs. a poorer one, then it's a bad choice of words.