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Hmm, why not simply always use the recovery system but just not store the energy in the battery if it's full already (or capacity reached or whatever)?

baq 12y ago
where do you suggest this energy should go? it's not like there's room for a bird burner on an f1 car.
- robmcm 12y ago
  Why not power up some tesla coil on the rear of the car that produces cool electric arcs all over the track. Lets face it, some of the coolest parts of high power cars are dispersed excess energy, glowing brake discs or flaming exhausts and of course screaming engines.
  - baq 12y ago
    yeah, that's the point. the brakes are smoking hot, so if you suddenly start to collect that energy it needs to go somewhere.
    - masklinn 12y ago
      I think you missed the question/point: traditional brakes work by converting kinetic energy to thermal energy and dissipating it. The ERS base is to convert it to electric and store that. ERS obviously can't store things when the battery is full, but if the issue here is the transition between ERS and traditional why not have ERS bypass the battery when it's full and dump energy in a radiator, ending up with the same result as traditional brakes (kinetic -> thermal) without having to switch braking system in the midst of braking?
      - rplnt 12y ago
        I think you missed the first answer. There is no place for it. It's big, heavy and needs to be exposed.
- DanBC 12y ago
  Loud speakers and an amplifier to make the cars sound better?
- jbert 12y ago
  There's presumably no more energy being dispersed than with manual brakes. The current brakes will heat less (due to energy in the ERS). If the ERS is full, you either switch over to dumping the heat into the brakes (no ERS, switching problems), or you start to drain the ERS to make room (no switching problems). Draining the ERS will give you the same thermal problem you have with no ERS, except you have the choice of not dumping it into the brake pads - you can have seperate external resistor coils, glowing and radiating.

baq 12y ago

where do you suggest this energy should go? it's not like there's room for a bird burner on an f1 car.

robmcm 12y ago
Why not power up some tesla coil on the rear of the car that produces cool electric arcs all over the track. Lets face it, some of the coolest parts of high power cars are dispersed excess energy, glowing brake discs or flaming exhausts and of course screaming engines.
- baq 12y ago
  yeah, that's the point. the brakes are smoking hot, so if you suddenly start to collect that energy it needs to go somewhere.
  - masklinn 12y ago
    I think you missed the question/point: traditional brakes work by converting kinetic energy to thermal energy and dissipating it. The ERS base is to convert it to electric and store that. ERS obviously can't store things when the battery is full, but if the issue here is the transition between ERS and traditional why not have ERS bypass the battery when it's full and dump energy in a radiator, ending up with the same result as traditional brakes (kinetic -> thermal) without having to switch braking system in the midst of braking?
    - rplnt 12y ago
      I think you missed the first answer. There is no place for it. It's big, heavy and needs to be exposed.
DanBC 12y ago
Loud speakers and an amplifier to make the cars sound better?
jbert 12y ago
There's presumably no more energy being dispersed than with manual brakes. The current brakes will heat less (due to energy in the ERS). If the ERS is full, you either switch over to dumping the heat into the brakes (no ERS, switching problems), or you start to drain the ERS to make room (no switching problems). Draining the ERS will give you the same thermal problem you have with no ERS, except you have the choice of not dumping it into the brake pads - you can have seperate external resistor coils, glowing and radiating.