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This is written in a semi-sarcastic/ passive aggressive tone to get across the point of how safe their vehicles already are. Very cheeky of Elon and his team.

lkmz 12y ago
Let's not forget that Tesla recently issued a recall for 29,000 charging adapters because they would overheat and catch on fire. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/automobiles/citing-charging-concerns-tesla-issues-a-recall.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/automobiles/citing-chargin...
- cykod 12y ago
  Come on dude, you make it sound like these things we're catching on fire all over the place - "... the number of incidents remains small, and Tesla’s review to date points to the building receptacle or wiring as the primary cause of failed NEMA 14-50 adapters, the company has determined that a voluntary recall is appropriate as a precautionary measure.”
- MPetitt 12y ago
  And lets not forget how astonishing that is in light of what many other car manufacturers[0] do when they find issues that effect millions of their cars in a much more dangerous way. The fact that even with that issue, their safety numbers are through the roof and their number of incidents are way under the national average, and they still willingly and transparently issues a recall, I count that as nothing but a plus for Tesla. [0]http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324669104578203440990704994 http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142412788732466910...
  - owurkan 12y ago
    Let's not forget it was a special kind of recall, one where no vehicles were being physically recalled by Tesla.
  - threeseed 12y ago
    Did you actually read that article ? Toyota recalled cars and paid damages. Which is exactly what Tesla would have done. And you're being disingenuous by comparing a single Tesla incident to the entirety of the automobile industry's history.
    - MPetitt 12y ago
      I did, and I'm not sure what you are trying to say exactly, but the point I was making which others have pointed out as well is that Tesla issued changes not for an issue with their car, but to improve it and make it better. Other car manufacturers waited until there were either deaths, lawsuits, or media outcry to recall cars. They were all reactive purely based on cost-benefit. Tesla decided here that their already incredibly safe cars that have fared better than most, if not all others; could be made even better. What Tesla did is leagues above what any other manufacturer has done in recent memory.
  - twistedpair 12y ago
    Compared to GM that waited recently until 13 people had died before issuing a recall for faulty ignitions? Or how about the 119 deaths from knowingly underinflated tires on Ford Explorers back in 2000? Car companies are reactive and calculating, Tesla is proactive with foresight.
- pjc50 12y ago
  GM is currently recalling 1.6M cars which can accidentally turn off while driving: http://www.thewire.com/business/2014/03/gm-recall-mary-barra-hearing/359670/ http://www.thewire.com/business/2014/03/gm-recall-mary-barra... (this has apparently resulted in a number of deaths, as the power steering stops working)
  - acangiano 12y ago
    And they were aware of the problem.
  - MBCook 12y ago
    Not only were they aware of the problem, they did the calculus and decided to release a brand new model knowing this issue effected. http://consumerist.com/2014/03/25/gm-knew-chevy-cobalt-ignition-could-turn-itself-off-released-car-anyway/ http://consumerist.com/2014/03/25/gm-knew-chevy-cobalt-ignit...
    - chrisgd 12y ago
      "Take the nubmer of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probabilty rate of failure, B, multiply by the average ouf-of-court settlement, C. A x B x C = X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."
      - RyanMcGreal 12y ago
        Cost-benefit analysis, psychopath style.
        Bootvis 12y ago
        It's from Fight Club :)
        baddox 12y ago
        In all honesty, how would you recommend doing cost benefit analysis for a car manufacturer? There will always be safety risks to the drivers, after all.

lkmz 12y ago

Let's not forget that Tesla recently issued a recall for 29,000 charging adapters because they would overheat and catch on fire. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/automobiles/citing-charging-concerns-tesla-issues-a-recall.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/automobiles/citing-chargin...

cykod 12y ago
Come on dude, you make it sound like these things we're catching on fire all over the place - "... the number of incidents remains small, and Tesla’s review to date points to the building receptacle or wiring as the primary cause of failed NEMA 14-50 adapters, the company has determined that a voluntary recall is appropriate as a precautionary measure.”
MPetitt 12y ago
And lets not forget how astonishing that is in light of what many other car manufacturers[0] do when they find issues that effect millions of their cars in a much more dangerous way. The fact that even with that issue, their safety numbers are through the roof and their number of incidents are way under the national average, and they still willingly and transparently issues a recall, I count that as nothing but a plus for Tesla. [0]http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324669104578203440990704994 http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142412788732466910...
- owurkan 12y ago
  Let's not forget it was a special kind of recall, one where no vehicles were being physically recalled by Tesla.
- threeseed 12y ago
  Did you actually read that article ? Toyota recalled cars and paid damages. Which is exactly what Tesla would have done. And you're being disingenuous by comparing a single Tesla incident to the entirety of the automobile industry's history.
  - MPetitt 12y ago
    I did, and I'm not sure what you are trying to say exactly, but the point I was making which others have pointed out as well is that Tesla issued changes not for an issue with their car, but to improve it and make it better. Other car manufacturers waited until there were either deaths, lawsuits, or media outcry to recall cars. They were all reactive purely based on cost-benefit. Tesla decided here that their already incredibly safe cars that have fared better than most, if not all others; could be made even better. What Tesla did is leagues above what any other manufacturer has done in recent memory.
- twistedpair 12y ago
  Compared to GM that waited recently until 13 people had died before issuing a recall for faulty ignitions? Or how about the 119 deaths from knowingly underinflated tires on Ford Explorers back in 2000? Car companies are reactive and calculating, Tesla is proactive with foresight.
pjc50 12y ago
GM is currently recalling 1.6M cars which can accidentally turn off while driving: http://www.thewire.com/business/2014/03/gm-recall-mary-barra-hearing/359670/ http://www.thewire.com/business/2014/03/gm-recall-mary-barra... (this has apparently resulted in a number of deaths, as the power steering stops working)
- acangiano 12y ago
  And they were aware of the problem.
- MBCook 12y ago
  Not only were they aware of the problem, they did the calculus and decided to release a brand new model knowing this issue effected. http://consumerist.com/2014/03/25/gm-knew-chevy-cobalt-ignition-could-turn-itself-off-released-car-anyway/ http://consumerist.com/2014/03/25/gm-knew-chevy-cobalt-ignit...
  - chrisgd 12y ago
    "Take the nubmer of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probabilty rate of failure, B, multiply by the average ouf-of-court settlement, C. A x B x C = X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one."
    - RyanMcGreal 12y ago
      Cost-benefit analysis, psychopath style.
      - Bootvis 12y ago
        It's from Fight Club :)
      - baddox 12y ago
        In all honesty, how would you recommend doing cost benefit analysis for a car manufacturer? There will always be safety risks to the drivers, after all.