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I believe the main benefit is that it is much easier to customize/change/tweak.

by olegbl 13y ago

stormbrew 13y ago
I don't see a reason to take that as a given. This uses node, ST uses python. Sublime plugins have a huge amount of power and python is certainly not terrible to work in.
- johnthedebs 13y ago
  I've been playing with it for a few minutes now, and it's definitely the case that it's easier to tweak. Not because of the underlying language, but because they expose so much of what's available through a GUI. I'm blown away by how cool this is. I'm just really hoping for good Vim keybindings and I will pay good money for this once it's out of beta.
  - mattyohe 13y ago
    Lots of work to be done in the vim department: https://github.com/atom/vim-mode https://github.com/atom/vim-mode
  - mrbogle 13y ago
    You may have found it already, but there is: https://github.com/atom/vim-mode https://github.com/atom/vim-mode
    - johnthedebs 13y ago
      Yup, saw it and looking forward to trying it (haven't yet). But just reading through the description made it clear it wasn't quite ready yet.
    - mihaifm 13y ago
      written in Coffeescript? Oh God how did we get to this...poor old Vim...
  - brianpgordon 13y ago
    You've been playing with it? How did you get your hands on a copy?
    - johnthedebs 13y ago
      I signed up for an invite less than 1 min after I saw the first mention of it on twitter (https://twitter.com/defunkt/status/438789450147979264 https://twitter.com/defunkt/status/438789450147979264) and received the invite maybe 15 minutes or so after that. I was given 3 invites, I gave away 2 but I'll give the third to the first person to email me. (EDIT: gave away the last one) Doesn't seem like they're keeping too tight of a lid on it, but I guess we'll see. It seems like it can be freely passed around; I think they're just trying to gauge interest since it won't be free after the beta period.
  - doktrin 13y ago
    A good VIM keybinding plugin is a must for me as well. The one available for LightTable, for instance, simply wasn't sufficient IMO. I can't specifically remember what it lacked, but it was enough to throw me off. Vintage mode in ST2/3 isn't perfect, but it's pretty solid. Atom looks interesting. I really look forward to trying it out.
    - bjeanes 13y ago
      Agreed. Nothing beats evil-mode in Emacs, as far as I'm concerned. That's a model for other vim emulation layers to follow IMO.
      - doorhammer 13y ago
        Don't hear as many folks talking about emacs in evil mode. I tried that out for a bit, and I'm not really sure why I didn't stick with it. I used it a few months. I always liked the modal nature of vim and the operator/motion sequences, but I'm a fan of lisp/emacs and remember enjoying how emacs was put together more, from a modification standpoint (I don't remember any of it now) I'll have to try that out again
    - johnthedebs 13y ago
      Yeah, Vintage mode was okay. I liked the Vintageous plugin a bit better but even that left me wishing for Vim some of the time (more time to adapt might've helped). Other than that, it seems like an incredibly well-designed editor. Really looking forward to seeing what happens to it now that it's out in the open.
scott_karana 13y ago
It's also open source, so maybe we'll see some creative hacking to the core.
- Touche 13y ago
  Look downthread, the core is not open source.
  - scott_karana 13y ago
    Ugh. :(

I believe the main benefit is that it is much easier to customize/change/tweak.

by olegbl 13y ago

I believe the main benefit is that it is much easier to customize/change/tweak.

I don't see a reason to take that as a given. This uses node, ST uses python. Sublime plugins have a huge amount of power and python is certainly not terrible to work in.

johnthedebs 13y ago
I've been playing with it for a few minutes now, and it's definitely the case that it's easier to tweak. Not because of the underlying language, but because they expose so much of what's available through a GUI. I'm blown away by how cool this is. I'm just really hoping for good Vim keybindings and I will pay good money for this once it's out of beta.
- mattyohe 13y ago
  Lots of work to be done in the vim department: https://github.com/atom/vim-mode https://github.com/atom/vim-mode
- mrbogle 13y ago
  You may have found it already, but there is: https://github.com/atom/vim-mode https://github.com/atom/vim-mode
  - johnthedebs 13y ago
    Yup, saw it and looking forward to trying it (haven't yet). But just reading through the description made it clear it wasn't quite ready yet.
  - mihaifm 13y ago
    written in Coffeescript? Oh God how did we get to this...poor old Vim...
- brianpgordon 13y ago
  You've been playing with it? How did you get your hands on a copy?
  - johnthedebs 13y ago
    I signed up for an invite less than 1 min after I saw the first mention of it on twitter (https://twitter.com/defunkt/status/438789450147979264 https://twitter.com/defunkt/status/438789450147979264) and received the invite maybe 15 minutes or so after that. I was given 3 invites, I gave away 2 but I'll give the third to the first person to email me. (EDIT: gave away the last one) Doesn't seem like they're keeping too tight of a lid on it, but I guess we'll see. It seems like it can be freely passed around; I think they're just trying to gauge interest since it won't be free after the beta period.
- doktrin 13y ago
  A good VIM keybinding plugin is a must for me as well. The one available for LightTable, for instance, simply wasn't sufficient IMO. I can't specifically remember what it lacked, but it was enough to throw me off. Vintage mode in ST2/3 isn't perfect, but it's pretty solid. Atom looks interesting. I really look forward to trying it out.
  - bjeanes 13y ago
    Agreed. Nothing beats evil-mode in Emacs, as far as I'm concerned. That's a model for other vim emulation layers to follow IMO.
    - doorhammer 13y ago
      Don't hear as many folks talking about emacs in evil mode. I tried that out for a bit, and I'm not really sure why I didn't stick with it. I used it a few months. I always liked the modal nature of vim and the operator/motion sequences, but I'm a fan of lisp/emacs and remember enjoying how emacs was put together more, from a modification standpoint (I don't remember any of it now) I'll have to try that out again
  - johnthedebs 13y ago
    Yeah, Vintage mode was okay. I liked the Vintageous plugin a bit better but even that left me wishing for Vim some of the time (more time to adapt might've helped). Other than that, it seems like an incredibly well-designed editor. Really looking forward to seeing what happens to it now that it's out in the open.

scott_karana 13y ago

It's also open source, so maybe we'll see some creative hacking to the core.

Touche 13y ago
Look downthread, the core is not open source.
- scott_karana 13y ago
  Ugh. :(