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Edward Snowden nominated for TIME's person of the year
- smallegan 13y agoAccording to the following page Miley Cyrus has 25% of the vote...WTF? http://poy.time.com/2013/11/25/vote-now-who-should-be-times-person-of-the-year/slide/poll-results/ http://poy.time.com/2013/11/25/vote-now-who-should-be-times-...
- pilgrim689 13y agoThe numbers are being modified. In the other thread, someone posted a screenshot of the then-current results for snowden: http://i.imgur.com/jv9t4X0.png http://i.imgur.com/jv9t4X0.png
- TillE 13y agoThat could be expected, but the relatively high numbers for Modi and Putin make zero sense from any angle.
- rmason 13y agoTIME magazine jumped the shark a very long time ago. I remember a time when everyone was curious who would win and it was a really big honor. Today you're sharing the honor with the likes of Moot from 4Chan. I think I am going to go off and vote for Miley Cyrus.
- harryh 13y agoThe person they editors pick != the person that wins a silly internet poll.
- Erwin 13y agoWell, it's supposedly the most influential person, and not necessarily an honor -- it's not the Nobel Peace prize. Hitler was it in 1938. Surprisingly Giuliani was chosen over OBL in 2001. Then we have Khomeini in 1979. Stalin won twice. I think Snowden fits perfectly here and not it's not necessarily an honor. I can't think of a lamer (from a non-US view) controversy than the twerking, it's right up there with "maldrobe malfunction".
- siculars 13y agoGo Miley GO! That Miley is in the lead is sad commentary indeed. That Snowden is a known figure is even sadder.
- tokenadult 13y agoPrevious Hacker News discussion with several comments (I'm not sure what the duplicate detector missed here): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6800145 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6800145
- jack-r-abbit 13y agoThe other one has a trailing "/" in the URL so clearly the dupe detector is fairly [dumb|simple|easily defeated].
- tedks 13y agoMiley Cyrus is currently winning, and probably will win. This isn't the NSA hacking Time or any other conspiracy. Miley Cyrus is more popular than Edward Snowden, and more people are likely to want Miley Cyrus to win than Edward Snowden. This entire poll is, like any poll, a popularity contest. If you think Edward Snowden is more popular than Miley Cyrus, then you're far too isolated and need to leave the tech bubble to talk to some humans.
- casual_slacker 13y agoI was about to vote for Snowden, but the irony of having to "connect with facebook" put me off.
- yread 13y agoI don't understand how this works. Snowden shows 37k votes and Cyrus 21k votes?!
- bsimpson 13y agoThey're mostly downvotes.
- socillion 13y agoThe Time poll for person of the year is notorious for being rigged. In 2009, 4chan got moot to the top, in addition spelling out "marblecake also the game" with the first initials of the 21 top nominees. [1] In 2012, something similar was done [2]. 2013? Yup. http://www.dailydot.com/news/time-person-of-the-year-miley-cyrus-rigged/ http://www.dailydot.com/news/time-person-of-the-year-miley-c... Anyway, my point is that the Time poll isn't even a reflection of popularity. The 2013 article also covers these 2 topics. 1. http://musicmachinery.com/2009/04/27/moot-wins-time-inc-loses/ http://musicmachinery.com/2009/04/27/moot-wins-time-inc-lose... 2. http://www.dailydot.com/society/hackers-time-person-year-kjugaschambers/ http://www.dailydot.com/society/hackers-time-person-year-kju...
- cbr 13y agoThe stats I see are: Cyrus: Yes: 4.7k No: 16.5k Snowden: Yes: 35.5k No: 2.3k This poll does seem to support the claim that Edward Snowden is more popular than Miley Cyrus.
- rubiquity 13y agoIs TIME Person of the Year a festival of trolling now? There are some people on that list that have done some seemingly bad things.
- harryh 13y agoTIME Person of the year was never meant to be the best person, but instead the most influential person. They picked Hitler in 1938.
- makerops 13y agoHitler was Time's man of the year at one point; they don't limit it to people who are altruistic.
- jheriko 13y agoactually i heard he was rejected for man of the century/millenium for precisely this reason. without a question he has had the largest impact on modern history of a single individual from the past 100 years.
- rhizome 13y agoTo be fair, the competition would have to include Henry Ford and J. Robert Oppenheimer.
- jheriko 13y agoThese are good examples, Henry Ford is an especially good example, as the pioneer of much of what we consider to be common sense or standard working practices today. I'd disagree on Oppenheimer though - other than his media popularity for the famous comment on the atom bomb and the trial, his contributions to physics, whilst considerable, are easily trumped by his contemporaries in that field. Dirac, Feynmann, Einstein, Pauli, Fermi to name a few... Its an interesting topic for discussion to be fair. Probably worth more thought than I give it credit...
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- grecy 13y agoAhg. Log in with Facebook. No vote from me.
- marveller 13y agoInteresting, rigged to let Miley win? http://www.dailydot.com/news/time-person-of-the-year-miley-cyrus-rigged/ http://www.dailydot.com/news/time-person-of-the-year-miley-c...
- a8i 13y agoEveryone here is well aware that TIME's editors choose the person of the year, and that the poll is a mere sideshow which at most might influence the editors' choice, right? Cf. moot and /b/'s votespamming.
- wzy 13y agoMiley Cyrus, the epitome of American greatness.
- cocoflunchy 13y agoIt's worth noting that the TIME person of the year and the 'winner' of this poll are not necessarily the same. The TIME editors will choose whoever they like.
- ALee 13y agoVery true. Especially since m00t from 4chan won and they hacked the whole polling system before.
- sarreph 13y agoI hope someone makes a bot that skews anyone's votes but Miley's to stop her from winning.
- jheriko 13y agough. i applaud his bravery but its utterly misguided, as is all of the hype around this. whilst i'm sure the specifics are very helpful i still wonder "well what did you think the NSA and GCHQ were doing if not /their jobs that we pay them to do/" the naivete of the web elite is constantly disappointing. edit: tempted to delete because it is yet another rage response to this situation, but curious to see how it goes.
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- dmazin 13y agoIn the faceoff section, we see: Obama (2%) vs Snowden (98%).
- spdy 13y agoThe poll software is totally broken. Not that Snowden had 300k votes some hours ago. But right now if you open up the single pages of Cyrus (21,338 votes) and Snowden (37,756 votes) the total does not check out at all.
- nollidge 13y agoOh good. A poll designed to draw publicity to what's already a brazen publicity stunt.
- jack-r-abbit 13y agoNot that this poll really matters as it is not really who gets it. That is picked by the staff/editor. But historically, the Time POY is not always a "good" person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year So what ever you feel about Snowden (or Cyrus) really doesn't mean they couldn't win. Hitler won for fuck's sake.