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AngularJS 1.2.0: timely-delivery

212 points by jbdeboer 13y ago

hswolff 13y ago
So exciting. Great work guys :)
jayhuang 13y ago
I'm really impressed with Angular. I've previously worked with Backbone.js, and found that many things in Backbone where I've had to manually develop are readily available in Angular. Moving from Backbone to Angular has made the code much cleaner, and smaller in size. Whereas in Backbone, the code slowly became a mess with all the event listening and event triggering (probably my fault), in Angular, that has all been abstracted for the most part. Great work guys!
- adamors 13y ago
  I'm really impressed as well, especially how helpful and outreaching the developers/contributors are on sites like StackOverflow. Now if the documentation would improve in some of the grayer areas, I would be really happy. Wish I knew enough to contribute.
  - btford 13y ago
    We've been steadily working on improving the docs, and rolling out significantly improvements on a regular basis. Is there any particular part of the docs that still ails you?
    - crucialfelix 13y ago
      I like the new search bar a lot. it appears to be searching within the pages themselves. so all pages are already in memory ? http://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng.directive:ngRepeat http://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng.directive:ngRepeat I search "ng-val"...
wnevets 13y ago
Great timing, I'm starting the new version of an angular web app. Having a production version of 1.2 on day one is great!
ryankshaw 13y ago
is there a road map for future things that want to be added to angular?
- jbdeboer 13y ago
  Take a look at the pull request queue on Github. We've been focused on 1.2. There are a lot of new features and proposals that we'll pick up now that the release is out the door.
Bahamut 13y ago
I noticed that Angular was likely to release this morning since all the issues for the milestone was finally cleared out - looking forward to moving to 1.2 stable from 1.2 rc2 (we're using rc2 in production code!). Also looking forward to seeing new Angular features being worked on again!
- joshstrange 13y ago
  I'm using rc3 in production right now so I'm looking forward to testing this out upgrading.
eknkc 13y ago
"This commit introduces the notion of "private" properties (properties whose names begin and/or end with an underscore) on the scope chain. These properties will not be available to Angular expressions." I wish they'd discuss stuff like this and I wish that MongoDB did not store primary keys on _id field. I blame myself though.
- jbdeboer 13y ago
  This change was discussed: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/pull/4509 https://github.com/angular/angular.js/pull/4509 It is also clear from the discussion that there are dissenting opinions -- we are constantly iterating and welcome issues and pull requests to make features work even better. The best way to influence AngularJS is to send a pull request.
  - eknkc 13y ago
    You are right it was. But most people do not track all issues of all projects they depend on. While I'd love to do that, there's simply not much time. I belive this should have been in an earlier RC or Beta. This way, more people would have tested ot, ir got a chance to read changelog (I follow the blog and check each beta release). If that window was missed, it should have gone for the next major release. What I see is that Google announced AngularDart (http://news.dartlang.org/2013/11/angular-announces-angulardart.html http://news.dartlang.org/2013/11/angular-announces-angularda...). Dart has _ prefix for private fields. Then AngularJS team goes ahead and forces the same on the JS implementation. Seems that there is always some political reason to mess with things at Google.
    - Nitramp 13y ago
      Many other languages and projects use underscores to indicate private properties, in particular Google's Closure. I also have no idea how standardizing on _ in names meaning private would do anything to push Dart in some hidden, evil agenda. I think the change is reasonable, limiting AngularJS' expression to leak less information into the templates is a good idea IMHO, as described in particular with the new controller syntax. Disclosure: I work at Google, but I have not been involved in this discussion at all.
ollysb 13y ago
I've done one project with ember and was very happy with it but I'm now working on a project where I only need parts of the page to be controlled by the framework. So far I'm loving the way angular integrates with the dom but once you get back to the controllers/directives it suddenly feels like I have to do a whole lot more work than with ember. The main difference seems to be that you have to manage updates yourself i.e. use $watch or trigger them yourself by binding to js event. At this point I'm kind of wishing their was an embular project ( :) ) that integrated with the dom the way angular does but had ember's awesome binding/computed properties...
- gcv 13y ago
  I haven't had to use $watch except to integrate with jQuery plugins for fancy widgets (and wish I could get rid of those). For everything else, two-way binding in Angular works very well.
- wldlyinaccurate 13y ago
  Can you give an example of where you've had to use $watch? Usually too many $watch is an indication that you could improve your app's architecture, e.g. by abstracting into directives. FWIW I'm only speaking from personal experience and in your case lots of $watch might be necessary.
  - ollysb 13y ago
    A good example is where I have a list of items which is filtered by a select[1]. I have the select wired up to the controller with a two-way binding and the controller watches for changes to the binding and filters the list accordingly. Maybe this isn't an idiomatic way to do it? [1] http://plnkr.co/edit/ykfblPHlwkBJyMeObFyV?p=preview http://plnkr.co/edit/ykfblPHlwkBJyMeObFyV?p=preview
    - olegbl 13y ago
      Here's your example without a watch: http://plnkr.co/edit/GCv7bQALiOTgJ0npavwi?p=preview http://plnkr.co/edit/GCv7bQALiOTgJ0npavwi?p=preview
santialbo 13y ago
We've been using rc versions in production code too. As they've mentioned many times when they say unstable it doesn't mean that it was likely to break, simply that they are free to change the API if they need too. Does anyone know what's the rationale behind the separation of ngRoute? It's less than 4KB and less than 2KB when gzipped. I don't think it's worth the "pain" of having to remember to add another source file.
- Guillaume86 13y ago
  They want to split in lot of optional modules, it's just the beginning. IMO it's a good idea. For your problem, perhaps they should add a custom build/download tool like jQueryUI.
  - troyk 13y ago
    I think it's a great idea as well. Would like to see jqLite come out as well and be a separate project. Then those using jquery don't pay for jqLite, and even beter, for a quick landing page I'd be inclined to use jqLite naked for a nice tiny footprint.
- gyozaking 13y ago
  Probably because most projects will use uirouter: https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router
- lennel 13y ago
  what is your build process? (angular noob here)but I would assume your dependency resolution takes care of this. (this sounds to me like build vs real issue)
angrycoder 13y ago
Great timing. The angular based project I've been working on for the past 6 months just had a soft launch the other day. Being able to tell the powers that be that we are no longer on the unstable branch will ease a few minds.
ffrryuu 13y ago
Sweet, looks like some major changes to the compilation in this one.
filipedeschamps 13y ago
AngularJS is being one of the coolest thing since Node.js
- pandeiro 13y ago
  In terms of cool it still has a lot of ground to cover to catch horsejs
  - filipedeschamps 13y ago
    Dude, seriously, what's this? Random horse tips using google voice? I can't even understand those tips lol
    - saiko-chriskun 13y ago
      Sarcasm. Don't worry, it's new. You'll catch on.
yesimahuman 13y ago
Nice guys! I've been tracking the rc's with Ionic Framework (http://ionicframework.com/ http://ionicframework.com/) and just updated to the final. I've especially loved ngAnimate and ngTouch which have been really solid.
mathrawka 13y ago
With Javascript disabled the page is completely blank. edit (bringing text from comment up a level): If you are building apps for people other than yourself, then having a banner to notify them it won't work is better than a blank page. A typical banner that I make includes the following things: - Positioned at the top via CSS and sticks there - Includes a link to http://www.enable-javascript.com http://www.enable-javascript.com - Includes a tracking image so I can see how many people are coming without JS enabled If you have a white page like this blog does, people will think your site is broken and bounce... and may never come back.
- treeface 13y ago
  Not sure what you were expecting. AngularJS apps aren't usually built with a noJS fallback in mind.
  - conradfr 13y ago
    Well if the fallback is ng-cloak with the css I guess he got it :)
  - mathrawka 13y ago
    If you are building apps for people other than yourself, then having a banner to notify them it won't work is better than a blank page. A typical banner that I make includes the following things: - Positioned at the top via CSS and sticks there - Includes a link to http://www.enable-javascript.com http://www.enable-javascript.com - Includes a tracking image so I can see how many people are coming without JS enabled If you have a white page like this blog does, people will think your site is broken and bounce... and may never come back.
  - e12e 13y ago
    Well, from the url: http://blog.angularjs.org/2013/11/angularjs-120-timely-delivery.html http://blog.angularjs.org/2013/11/angularjs-120-timely-deliv... I was expecting a) a blog post, and b) from the .html-ending a hypertext document, maybe with text and images? What possible reason could there be for this to be "an app"? It's a blog, it's for reading -- and you already need a reader to access it -- why would you implement a (new) rendering engine? Ok, I can see an argument for adding comments via javascript and a service, or for posting blog posts and doing admin stuff. But the other reasons (user tracking etc) for having this as "an app" only detracts from the readers experience.
eliot_sykes 13y ago
Any advice for upgrading to 1.2 from 1.0.x? Is it worth going via 1.1.x first?
dan_sim 13y ago
I just wrote a yeoman generator to bootstrap a phonegap application with angular 1.2.0 : https://github.com/dsimard/generator-angular-phonegap https://github.com/dsimard/generator-angular-phonegap
- dan_sim 13y ago
  Here is a video showing how to bootstrap an angular-phonegap application in 6 commands : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXkLu7q4tq4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXkLu7q4tq4

212 points by jbdeboer 13y ago

So exciting. Great work guys :)

I'm really impressed with Angular. I've previously worked with Backbone.js, and found that many things in Backbone where I've had to manually develop are readily available in Angular. Moving from Backbone to Angular has made the code much cleaner, and smaller in size. Whereas in Backbone, the code slowly became a mess with all the event listening and event triggering (probably my fault), in Angular, that has all been abstracted for the most part. Great work guys!

adamors 13y ago
I'm really impressed as well, especially how helpful and outreaching the developers/contributors are on sites like StackOverflow. Now if the documentation would improve in some of the grayer areas, I would be really happy. Wish I knew enough to contribute.
- btford 13y ago
  We've been steadily working on improving the docs, and rolling out significantly improvements on a regular basis. Is there any particular part of the docs that still ails you?
  - crucialfelix 13y ago
    I like the new search bar a lot. it appears to be searching within the pages themselves. so all pages are already in memory ? http://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng.directive:ngRepeat http://docs.angularjs.org/api/ng.directive:ngRepeat I search "ng-val"...

wnevets 13y ago

Great timing, I'm starting the new version of an angular web app. Having a production version of 1.2 on day one is great!

ryankshaw 13y ago

is there a road map for future things that want to be added to angular?

jbdeboer 13y ago
Take a look at the pull request queue on Github. We've been focused on 1.2. There are a lot of new features and proposals that we'll pick up now that the release is out the door.

Bahamut 13y ago

I noticed that Angular was likely to release this morning since all the issues for the milestone was finally cleared out - looking forward to moving to 1.2 stable from 1.2 rc2 (we're using rc2 in production code!). Also looking forward to seeing new Angular features being worked on again!

joshstrange 13y ago
I'm using rc3 in production right now so I'm looking forward to testing this out upgrading.

eknkc 13y ago

"This commit introduces the notion of "private" properties (properties whose names begin and/or end with an underscore) on the scope chain. These properties will not be available to Angular expressions." I wish they'd discuss stuff like this and I wish that MongoDB did not store primary keys on _id field. I blame myself though.

jbdeboer 13y ago
This change was discussed: https://github.com/angular/angular.js/pull/4509 https://github.com/angular/angular.js/pull/4509 It is also clear from the discussion that there are dissenting opinions -- we are constantly iterating and welcome issues and pull requests to make features work even better. The best way to influence AngularJS is to send a pull request.
- eknkc 13y ago
  You are right it was. But most people do not track all issues of all projects they depend on. While I'd love to do that, there's simply not much time. I belive this should have been in an earlier RC or Beta. This way, more people would have tested ot, ir got a chance to read changelog (I follow the blog and check each beta release). If that window was missed, it should have gone for the next major release. What I see is that Google announced AngularDart (http://news.dartlang.org/2013/11/angular-announces-angulardart.html http://news.dartlang.org/2013/11/angular-announces-angularda...). Dart has _ prefix for private fields. Then AngularJS team goes ahead and forces the same on the JS implementation. Seems that there is always some political reason to mess with things at Google.
  - Nitramp 13y ago
    Many other languages and projects use underscores to indicate private properties, in particular Google's Closure. I also have no idea how standardizing on _ in names meaning private would do anything to push Dart in some hidden, evil agenda. I think the change is reasonable, limiting AngularJS' expression to leak less information into the templates is a good idea IMHO, as described in particular with the new controller syntax. Disclosure: I work at Google, but I have not been involved in this discussion at all.

ollysb 13y ago

I've done one project with ember and was very happy with it but I'm now working on a project where I only need parts of the page to be controlled by the framework. So far I'm loving the way angular integrates with the dom but once you get back to the controllers/directives it suddenly feels like I have to do a whole lot more work than with ember. The main difference seems to be that you have to manage updates yourself i.e. use $watch or trigger them yourself by binding to js event. At this point I'm kind of wishing their was an embular project ( :) ) that integrated with the dom the way angular does but had ember's awesome binding/computed properties...

gcv 13y ago
I haven't had to use $watch except to integrate with jQuery plugins for fancy widgets (and wish I could get rid of those). For everything else, two-way binding in Angular works very well.
wldlyinaccurate 13y ago
Can you give an example of where you've had to use $watch? Usually too many $watch is an indication that you could improve your app's architecture, e.g. by abstracting into directives. FWIW I'm only speaking from personal experience and in your case lots of $watch might be necessary.
- ollysb 13y ago
  A good example is where I have a list of items which is filtered by a select[1]. I have the select wired up to the controller with a two-way binding and the controller watches for changes to the binding and filters the list accordingly. Maybe this isn't an idiomatic way to do it? [1] http://plnkr.co/edit/ykfblPHlwkBJyMeObFyV?p=preview http://plnkr.co/edit/ykfblPHlwkBJyMeObFyV?p=preview
  - olegbl 13y ago
    Here's your example without a watch: http://plnkr.co/edit/GCv7bQALiOTgJ0npavwi?p=preview http://plnkr.co/edit/GCv7bQALiOTgJ0npavwi?p=preview

santialbo 13y ago

We've been using rc versions in production code too. As they've mentioned many times when they say unstable it doesn't mean that it was likely to break, simply that they are free to change the API if they need too. Does anyone know what's the rationale behind the separation of ngRoute? It's less than 4KB and less than 2KB when gzipped. I don't think it's worth the "pain" of having to remember to add another source file.

Guillaume86 13y ago
They want to split in lot of optional modules, it's just the beginning. IMO it's a good idea. For your problem, perhaps they should add a custom build/download tool like jQueryUI.
- troyk 13y ago
  I think it's a great idea as well. Would like to see jqLite come out as well and be a separate project. Then those using jquery don't pay for jqLite, and even beter, for a quick landing page I'd be inclined to use jqLite naked for a nice tiny footprint.
gyozaking 13y ago
Probably because most projects will use uirouter: https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router https://github.com/angular-ui/ui-router
lennel 13y ago
what is your build process? (angular noob here)but I would assume your dependency resolution takes care of this. (this sounds to me like build vs real issue)

angrycoder 13y ago

Great timing. The angular based project I've been working on for the past 6 months just had a soft launch the other day. Being able to tell the powers that be that we are no longer on the unstable branch will ease a few minds.

ffrryuu 13y ago

Sweet, looks like some major changes to the compilation in this one.

filipedeschamps 13y ago

AngularJS is being one of the coolest thing since Node.js

pandeiro 13y ago
In terms of cool it still has a lot of ground to cover to catch horsejs
- filipedeschamps 13y ago
  Dude, seriously, what's this? Random horse tips using google voice? I can't even understand those tips lol
  - saiko-chriskun 13y ago
    Sarcasm. Don't worry, it's new. You'll catch on.

yesimahuman 13y ago

Nice guys! I've been tracking the rc's with Ionic Framework (http://ionicframework.com/ http://ionicframework.com/) and just updated to the final. I've especially loved ngAnimate and ngTouch which have been really solid.

mathrawka 13y ago

With Javascript disabled the page is completely blank. edit (bringing text from comment up a level): If you are building apps for people other than yourself, then having a banner to notify them it won't work is better than a blank page. A typical banner that I make includes the following things: - Positioned at the top via CSS and sticks there - Includes a link to http://www.enable-javascript.com http://www.enable-javascript.com - Includes a tracking image so I can see how many people are coming without JS enabled If you have a white page like this blog does, people will think your site is broken and bounce... and may never come back.

treeface 13y ago
Not sure what you were expecting. AngularJS apps aren't usually built with a noJS fallback in mind.
- conradfr 13y ago
  Well if the fallback is ng-cloak with the css I guess he got it :)
- mathrawka 13y ago
  If you are building apps for people other than yourself, then having a banner to notify them it won't work is better than a blank page. A typical banner that I make includes the following things: - Positioned at the top via CSS and sticks there - Includes a link to http://www.enable-javascript.com http://www.enable-javascript.com - Includes a tracking image so I can see how many people are coming without JS enabled If you have a white page like this blog does, people will think your site is broken and bounce... and may never come back.
- e12e 13y ago
  Well, from the url: http://blog.angularjs.org/2013/11/angularjs-120-timely-delivery.html http://blog.angularjs.org/2013/11/angularjs-120-timely-deliv... I was expecting a) a blog post, and b) from the .html-ending a hypertext document, maybe with text and images? What possible reason could there be for this to be "an app"? It's a blog, it's for reading -- and you already need a reader to access it -- why would you implement a (new) rendering engine? Ok, I can see an argument for adding comments via javascript and a service, or for posting blog posts and doing admin stuff. But the other reasons (user tracking etc) for having this as "an app" only detracts from the readers experience.

eliot_sykes 13y ago

Any advice for upgrading to 1.2 from 1.0.x? Is it worth going via 1.1.x first?

dan_sim 13y ago

I just wrote a yeoman generator to bootstrap a phonegap application with angular 1.2.0 : https://github.com/dsimard/generator-angular-phonegap https://github.com/dsimard/generator-angular-phonegap

dan_sim 13y ago
Here is a video showing how to bootstrap an angular-phonegap application in 6 commands : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXkLu7q4tq4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXkLu7q4tq4