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Doesn't matter for me. I hardly get much deep sleep due to anatomical issues essentially blocking my airways. I can't afford the surgery (even though I have ins

by joonix 13y ago

Doesn't matter for me. I hardly get much deep sleep due to anatomical issues essentially blocking my airways. I can't afford the surgery (even though I have insurance) nor will my government contribute to it (even though it would increase my productivity multiple times over, meanwhile they throw trillions at universities offering useless degrees). But yes, we have a culture that doesn't value sleep. I know of people who schedule emails to be sent in the middle of the night just so they appear to be working all the time. Construction can begin at 7AM in NYC, waking up hundreds of people in surrounding buildings. Gas leaf blowers emit one of the most stressful drone sounds out in the suburbs, causing stress to dozens of neighbors, so one man can clear a pavement of dead leaves quicker. And just this morning over Manhattan, a helicopter hovered at 6AM for at least an hour. An hour, sitting there, hovering, for God knows what reason, awaking possibly thousands of people early, causing possibly millions in lost productivity today.

peacemaker 13y ago
You can really feel the anger in your comment and it resonates with me. I am a light sleeper and constantly amazed at what we as a society deem acceptable when it comes to noise at certain hours. Why does the fire truck needs to blast its horns at 3am on a Tuesday going down a large empty street? There is no need and in some countries that would be against noise pollution laws. Doesn't seem to matter here. Leaf blowers and lawn mowing at 7am on a Sunday are also a major annoyance yet I understand that some people, especially older people, like to get up early and who am I to complain that they do? They say having a major lack of sleep is comparable to being intoxicated yet there are no protections in place to prevent it. Instead we wax on about "pulling an all-nighter" like it's a competition on who can be the most sleep deprived. We live in a strange world.
- joonix 13y ago
  Yes. I actually got into confrontations with the leaf blowers once (the manager, and the property owner). I also called the police because they are clearly violating the city's own noise ordinance. Nobody cares, the owner called me and told me that it doesn't matter because the work day starts at X a.m. What about people who work odd shifts, or students? Resistance is futile. I just started using wax earplugs and find they make a huge difference and actually drown out a lot of noise.
- mhurron 13y ago
  > There is no need and in some countries that would be against noise pollution laws. Emergency vehicles are exempt from those laws, as they should be. Safety is more important than your sleep. Trains blow their horns at crossings for the same reason. Also, I have to laugh at your indignation at someone mowing their lawn at 7am because they are awake but you aren't right after complaining about an empty street at 3am because everyone is asleep.
  - deltaqueue 13y ago
    I have almost hit several emergency vehicles during the day due to my car's sound dampening and my car stereo (which doesn't have to be loud to block out sirens). At night, this has never happened because I have never not seen the seizure-inducing lights. My sample size may be less than a hundred, but you're making an assumption that piercing sirens at night are the most effective way to alert the public of an emergency. And for those blind pedestrians, low-frequency (or even lower decibel) sirens are more than sufficient. I live on the 9th floor of a condo building that unfortunately has single-pane windows. If I don't have an extremely loud fan blowing, I will be woken up by everything from emergency vehicles to motorcyclists. I realize this comes with the territory of living in a city, but if cosmopolitan cities like Geneva can incorporate effective noise pollution laws* then there's room to improve. * http://www.cagi.ch/en/logement/bruit-de-voisinage.php http://www.cagi.ch/en/logement/bruit-de-voisinage.php
  - peacemaker 13y ago
    > Also, I have to laugh at your indignation at someone mowing their lawn at 7am because they are awake but you aren't right after complaining about an empty street at 3am because everyone is asleep. I'm not sure what you mean here? I was saying I don't think emergency vehicles need to use their sirens on a quiet street at 3 am in the morning. I was also bemoaning the use of leaf blowers at 7am on a Sunday. Both of those things are annoying yet "technically" I'd say 7am is probably a good time to consider as the start of the day and therefore removal of any noise restrictions. In fact, I think in the UK noise pollution restrictions apply from 11pm - 7am most nights.
- gte910h 13y ago
  My city cites noise rather reliably (Atlanta). 12am grinder during the week? ticket 8am chain saw on the weekend? ticket.
  - peacemaker 13y ago
    Is this in all of Atlanta and the suburbs too? I've heard it's a nice place to live and this makes it sound even better!
    - gte910h 13y ago
      Just in the city. The exurbs and suburbs are still very much the south in all the ways the south is stereotyped (poor govt services, anti govt rhetoric, tons of gun culture, overly accepting of racism if not racism itself, bevy of fundamentalists in local and state govt, etc). Also hideous commutes for suburban living. While some people would feel at home there (especially if white and Christian), many others would not find it as normal as places in other regions of the country. Atlanta (the city, not the region) is basically the freaks and geeks vacuum for the South (and also a middle class black mecca too). The city is great. The metro area is far more questionable. Tons of affordable homes in the city, tons of trees (we're literally "The City of Trees"), and lots of little pockets of whatever you like. Some of the close in suburbs are more like Atlanta than it's suburbs, but honestly, it's go with a home in the city or go home IMO. (Fulton county too, not DeKalb...it's complicated but important).
- lelandbatey 13y ago
  Only on reading this thread have I learned that I am a very heavy sleeper. I've always taken for granted that low level noise is easy to sleep through. Now I feel: 1. Bad that I've caused as much noise as I have at some times. 2. Very sorry for those of you that have to deal with easily disturbed sleep.
- frankzinger 13y ago
  I am also a light sleeper. I lived in the centre of the city for almost three years. I used to get woken up at all hours. I started off with earplugs, but those hurt my ears. Eventually I started shutting my windows and curtains and putting a powerful fan on and it really works well. Edit: a bonus one gets with the fan is that it also cools you off during summer when a shut window might have caused problems otherwise. (Aircon is uncommon here.)
  - elwell 13y ago
    i use a fan too. don't go too modern with your fan or might not be loud enough.
  - peacemaker 13y ago
    Yes, when I lived on Powell street in SF (right on the cable car tracks) ear plugs were essential but they can become a crutch too. I've also come to the same conclusion as you about having a fan in the room.
pfortuny 13y ago
I am with you. In my neighborhood, the trash collecting on Sundays takes place (for whatever "reason") at, believe it or not, 6:15AM. Then the recycling people appear later on, at 8:15AM. I guess they are trying to get people motivated during the week-end?
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  More likely, they have a finite number of trucks and staff, and any reasonable arrangement of them is going to result in someone's neighborhood getting hit at 6:15AM on Sunday, and you just got lucky.
  - pfortuny 13y ago
    I doubt it: Sunday is not the only day of trash-collection, there are plenty of cleaning stuff in this city. The problem is we (well, the city council) are obsessed with cleanliness to absurd levels. You will be amazed at the number of gardening stuff we have for a city like mine...
AndrewDucker 13y ago
Particularly when aircraft noise is correlated with heart disease risk: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131009100602.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131009100602.ht...
- makeset 13y ago
  That said, there is a special place in hell for people who move next to an airport and then complain about the noise. The special place next to hell's airport.
  - gmac 13y ago
    I laughed at this, but to be fair, property is cheaper where it's noisier, so some people may not feel they have the choice.
  - gaius 13y ago
    Or move to the country and complain about roosters crowing!
  - lostlogin 13y ago
    We are probably 7-10km from an airport, but to the side, not in line with runway. We checked out the noise, multiple time a week for months prior to buying. We moved in. Then without warning the airport changes the flight paths to be over our house to make a few more pennies. It's been a bit painful to them so far (see link), and we will see how it goes. I set up an email template and just fill in the time and hit send to the noise complaints section at the council, aviation authority and local MP. It's quite therapeutic. They are installing a noise monitoring thing in our back garden this week at some expense (30k of gear they tell me). http://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/9162498/Auckland-Airport-under-fire-over-flight-paths http://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/9162498/Auckland...
- nashequilibrium 13y ago
  I wonder what are all the scenarios that lead to this pattern "sleep deprived ---> low energy levels ---> less activity ---> weight gain ---> heart disease ---> death". Another issue i wonder is about will power, if self control is mentally taxing, therefore your diet should be affected as well.
gshakir 13y ago
"I know of people who schedule emails to be sent in the middle of the night just so they appear to be working all the time." Why do they do it? Sounds unethical. What sort of industry they are in?
nashequilibrium 13y ago
In LA the trash get's collected at 5am, it feels as though i have the trash cans next to me that's how loud it is. To top this off, they building an off ramp nearby, so i wake up at 1am but i can hear this drilling in the distance very faint, it doesn't disturb me, but i can hear it. I started thinking about those people living right there, how the hell are they sleeping, these guys are drilling 1am in the morning!
grannyg00se 13y ago
To me it seems we have a culture that doesn't value well-being in general. People might say that they do, but the entire culture is set up against it. Sleep is just one more neglected aspect of well-being. We also have ridiculous working hours, insane commutes, pathetic diet and exercise habits, and a health record to show for it. Keeping busy at one's job is valued above most else.
- drzaiusapelord 13y ago
  >Keeping busy at one's job is valued above most else. I also hate how our smalltalk starts with "What do you do for a living?" That's a fair question, but its depressing when that's the first one and all we really talk about. Its a puritan's overworked culture serving the elites. This shutdown is about this as well. We really need to have European-style vacation time and healthcare. I hope my generation gets it right and the status quo of the baby boomers is seen as the horrific thing that it truly is.
  - tomsaffell 13y ago
    >our smalltalk starts with "What do you do for a living?" I agree - it's not good small-talk. Since this was pointed out to me (~15 years ago) I've made a conscious effort never to ask people what they do for a living. One friend I knew for a year before I found out what he did (that's a rare situation, granted). If you haven't tried it then I highly recommend it.
    - zck 13y ago
      I love this idea, but I've struggled with what to replace it with. "Tell me about yourself" is the best thing I've come up with, but it sounds like an interview. "What are you interested in?" is another option, but it too sounds formal. I want to ask people what they care about without having it be awkward. How do you open small talk with someone you've just met?
      - scott_s 13y ago
Mithaldu 13y ago
> I hardly get much deep sleep due to anatomical issues essentially blocking my airways. I can't afford the surgery (even though I have insurance) I have snore-caused sleep apnea, are you referring to that? If so, a CPAP device could help you. It's a small cube you put on your nightdesk with a tube and a face (or nose) mask attached to it that allows you clear breathing, but increases pressure in your respiratory system so you won't snore as easily. I live in germany and my insurance covered it, but even if yours doesn't, 1k$ isn't too much for such a thing: http://www.thecpapshop.com/resmed-s9-autoset-cpap-machine-with-h5i-and-climateline-heated-tube http://www.thecpapshop.com/resmed-s9-autoset-cpap-machine-wi...
gte910h 13y ago
Have you had a sleep study done? It's 2 doctors office visits, 2 nights in a funky hotel room type lab, and they will often prescribe a machine called a CPAP if you really do have obstructive sleep problems. http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/cpap/ http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/cpap/ They're a little uncomfortable at first, but they get the job done.
- r00fus 13y ago
  I just spoke with my doctor regarding CPAPs recently, and the price has gone down considerably since I looked into it a few years ago… I hear it's less than a thousand I don't need one (mild hypopnea) yet, but it's nice to know that options exist. I had a coworker who, years ago, had sleep apnea (would fall asleep at keyboard at work), who subsequently got a CPAP and it's a night and day difference. I'm really glad for his improvements.
drzaiusapelord 13y ago
Sleep apnea? I have it too and couldn't stomach the CPAP machine. I read my sleep report and it turns out I didn't have any symptoms on my side. So I trained myself to sleep on my side and the symptoms went away. I wish my doctor told me that was an option before spending thousands on treatments, not to mention the time and stress of it all. If side sleeping doesn't help, I know there are DIY oral appliances you can buy. They're usually marketed just for snoring, but have the same effect on SA. You need to boil it, put it in your mouth so it gets an impression of your teeth, let it cool and wear it at night. It keeps your mouth open enough to help with airway issues. Might as well try it. I think its $20.
larrys 13y ago
Would suggest to anyone concerted with noise (not you I understand you have another issue as well) to get custom fitted ear plugs. Can be done by an an Audiologist. Make sure to also use the lubricant as well (helps with comfort and importantly blocks more sound). Price I paid was under $100. Bought a 2nd pair. They are great much better than the temporarily sound plugs (not to mention cheaper in the long run).
crazygringo 13y ago
As to the sounds -- it's not a perfect fix, but combinations of ear plugs / ear-plug-style-headphones / white noise can do wonders, both during sleep and in noisy offices, or when helicopters/leaf blowers/etc. are going. When construction in Manhattan starts at 7am on Saturday, it wakes me up, but I put the ear plugs back in and turn on white noise and I'm fine. When I'm at work and there's a helicopter or union strike or noisy coworker, I throw in the in-ear headphones (they form a seal) and turn on the white noise app on my phone. It totally sucks we have to do these things, but they can help a lot.
MasterXen 13y ago
I heard the hovering helicopter too (it was yesterday morning IIRC); it was around until at least 8am. I was so surprised by the continual sound (rather than passing-by) that I even googled how long a helicopter can hover for on a full tank.
mike_esspe 13y ago
Properly installed double glazing will block almost all sound, why not install them? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulated_glazing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulated_glazing
- r00fus 13y ago
  I have double-pane glass with an Argon spacer, and live close to a minor road that gets daily traffic (school/commute times). Plenty of sound gets through; the most effective sound insulating filler (Sulfur hexaflouride) is no longer available due to being a highly potent greenhouse gas.
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by joonix 13y ago

peacemaker 13y ago

You can really feel the anger in your comment and it resonates with me. I am a light sleeper and constantly amazed at what we as a society deem acceptable when it comes to noise at certain hours. Why does the fire truck needs to blast its horns at 3am on a Tuesday going down a large empty street? There is no need and in some countries that would be against noise pollution laws. Doesn't seem to matter here. Leaf blowers and lawn mowing at 7am on a Sunday are also a major annoyance yet I understand that some people, especially older people, like to get up early and who am I to complain that they do? They say having a major lack of sleep is comparable to being intoxicated yet there are no protections in place to prevent it. Instead we wax on about "pulling an all-nighter" like it's a competition on who can be the most sleep deprived. We live in a strange world.

joonix 13y ago
Yes. I actually got into confrontations with the leaf blowers once (the manager, and the property owner). I also called the police because they are clearly violating the city's own noise ordinance. Nobody cares, the owner called me and told me that it doesn't matter because the work day starts at X a.m. What about people who work odd shifts, or students? Resistance is futile. I just started using wax earplugs and find they make a huge difference and actually drown out a lot of noise.
mhurron 13y ago
> There is no need and in some countries that would be against noise pollution laws. Emergency vehicles are exempt from those laws, as they should be. Safety is more important than your sleep. Trains blow their horns at crossings for the same reason. Also, I have to laugh at your indignation at someone mowing their lawn at 7am because they are awake but you aren't right after complaining about an empty street at 3am because everyone is asleep.
- deltaqueue 13y ago
  I have almost hit several emergency vehicles during the day due to my car's sound dampening and my car stereo (which doesn't have to be loud to block out sirens). At night, this has never happened because I have never not seen the seizure-inducing lights. My sample size may be less than a hundred, but you're making an assumption that piercing sirens at night are the most effective way to alert the public of an emergency. And for those blind pedestrians, low-frequency (or even lower decibel) sirens are more than sufficient. I live on the 9th floor of a condo building that unfortunately has single-pane windows. If I don't have an extremely loud fan blowing, I will be woken up by everything from emergency vehicles to motorcyclists. I realize this comes with the territory of living in a city, but if cosmopolitan cities like Geneva can incorporate effective noise pollution laws* then there's room to improve. * http://www.cagi.ch/en/logement/bruit-de-voisinage.php http://www.cagi.ch/en/logement/bruit-de-voisinage.php
- peacemaker 13y ago
  > Also, I have to laugh at your indignation at someone mowing their lawn at 7am because they are awake but you aren't right after complaining about an empty street at 3am because everyone is asleep. I'm not sure what you mean here? I was saying I don't think emergency vehicles need to use their sirens on a quiet street at 3 am in the morning. I was also bemoaning the use of leaf blowers at 7am on a Sunday. Both of those things are annoying yet "technically" I'd say 7am is probably a good time to consider as the start of the day and therefore removal of any noise restrictions. In fact, I think in the UK noise pollution restrictions apply from 11pm - 7am most nights.
gte910h 13y ago
My city cites noise rather reliably (Atlanta). 12am grinder during the week? ticket 8am chain saw on the weekend? ticket.
- peacemaker 13y ago
  Is this in all of Atlanta and the suburbs too? I've heard it's a nice place to live and this makes it sound even better!
  - gte910h 13y ago
    Just in the city. The exurbs and suburbs are still very much the south in all the ways the south is stereotyped (poor govt services, anti govt rhetoric, tons of gun culture, overly accepting of racism if not racism itself, bevy of fundamentalists in local and state govt, etc). Also hideous commutes for suburban living. While some people would feel at home there (especially if white and Christian), many others would not find it as normal as places in other regions of the country. Atlanta (the city, not the region) is basically the freaks and geeks vacuum for the South (and also a middle class black mecca too). The city is great. The metro area is far more questionable. Tons of affordable homes in the city, tons of trees (we're literally "The City of Trees"), and lots of little pockets of whatever you like. Some of the close in suburbs are more like Atlanta than it's suburbs, but honestly, it's go with a home in the city or go home IMO. (Fulton county too, not DeKalb...it's complicated but important).
lelandbatey 13y ago
Only on reading this thread have I learned that I am a very heavy sleeper. I've always taken for granted that low level noise is easy to sleep through. Now I feel: 1. Bad that I've caused as much noise as I have at some times. 2. Very sorry for those of you that have to deal with easily disturbed sleep.
frankzinger 13y ago
I am also a light sleeper. I lived in the centre of the city for almost three years. I used to get woken up at all hours. I started off with earplugs, but those hurt my ears. Eventually I started shutting my windows and curtains and putting a powerful fan on and it really works well. Edit: a bonus one gets with the fan is that it also cools you off during summer when a shut window might have caused problems otherwise. (Aircon is uncommon here.)
- elwell 13y ago
  i use a fan too. don't go too modern with your fan or might not be loud enough.
- peacemaker 13y ago
  Yes, when I lived on Powell street in SF (right on the cable car tracks) ear plugs were essential but they can become a crutch too. I've also come to the same conclusion as you about having a fan in the room.

pfortuny 13y ago

I am with you. In my neighborhood, the trash collecting on Sundays takes place (for whatever "reason") at, believe it or not, 6:15AM. Then the recycling people appear later on, at 8:15AM. I guess they are trying to get people motivated during the week-end?

dragonwriter 13y ago
More likely, they have a finite number of trucks and staff, and any reasonable arrangement of them is going to result in someone's neighborhood getting hit at 6:15AM on Sunday, and you just got lucky.
- pfortuny 13y ago
  I doubt it: Sunday is not the only day of trash-collection, there are plenty of cleaning stuff in this city. The problem is we (well, the city council) are obsessed with cleanliness to absurd levels. You will be amazed at the number of gardening stuff we have for a city like mine...

AndrewDucker 13y ago

Particularly when aircraft noise is correlated with heart disease risk: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131009100602.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131009100602.ht...

makeset 13y ago
That said, there is a special place in hell for people who move next to an airport and then complain about the noise. The special place next to hell's airport.
- gmac 13y ago
  I laughed at this, but to be fair, property is cheaper where it's noisier, so some people may not feel they have the choice.
- gaius 13y ago
  Or move to the country and complain about roosters crowing!
- lostlogin 13y ago
  We are probably 7-10km from an airport, but to the side, not in line with runway. We checked out the noise, multiple time a week for months prior to buying. We moved in. Then without warning the airport changes the flight paths to be over our house to make a few more pennies. It's been a bit painful to them so far (see link), and we will see how it goes. I set up an email template and just fill in the time and hit send to the noise complaints section at the council, aviation authority and local MP. It's quite therapeutic. They are installing a noise monitoring thing in our back garden this week at some expense (30k of gear they tell me). http://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/9162498/Auckland-Airport-under-fire-over-flight-paths http://i.stuff.co.nz/travel/travel-troubles/9162498/Auckland...
nashequilibrium 13y ago
I wonder what are all the scenarios that lead to this pattern "sleep deprived ---> low energy levels ---> less activity ---> weight gain ---> heart disease ---> death". Another issue i wonder is about will power, if self control is mentally taxing, therefore your diet should be affected as well.

gshakir 13y ago

"I know of people who schedule emails to be sent in the middle of the night just so they appear to be working all the time." Why do they do it? Sounds unethical. What sort of industry they are in?

nashequilibrium 13y ago

In LA the trash get's collected at 5am, it feels as though i have the trash cans next to me that's how loud it is. To top this off, they building an off ramp nearby, so i wake up at 1am but i can hear this drilling in the distance very faint, it doesn't disturb me, but i can hear it. I started thinking about those people living right there, how the hell are they sleeping, these guys are drilling 1am in the morning!

grannyg00se 13y ago

To me it seems we have a culture that doesn't value well-being in general. People might say that they do, but the entire culture is set up against it. Sleep is just one more neglected aspect of well-being. We also have ridiculous working hours, insane commutes, pathetic diet and exercise habits, and a health record to show for it. Keeping busy at one's job is valued above most else.

drzaiusapelord 13y ago
>Keeping busy at one's job is valued above most else. I also hate how our smalltalk starts with "What do you do for a living?" That's a fair question, but its depressing when that's the first one and all we really talk about. Its a puritan's overworked culture serving the elites. This shutdown is about this as well. We really need to have European-style vacation time and healthcare. I hope my generation gets it right and the status quo of the baby boomers is seen as the horrific thing that it truly is.
- tomsaffell 13y ago
  >our smalltalk starts with "What do you do for a living?" I agree - it's not good small-talk. Since this was pointed out to me (~15 years ago) I've made a conscious effort never to ask people what they do for a living. One friend I knew for a year before I found out what he did (that's a rare situation, granted). If you haven't tried it then I highly recommend it.
  - zck 13y ago
    I love this idea, but I've struggled with what to replace it with. "Tell me about yourself" is the best thing I've come up with, but it sounds like an interview. "What are you interested in?" is another option, but it too sounds formal. I want to ask people what they care about without having it be awkward. How do you open small talk with someone you've just met?
    - scott_s 13y ago

Mithaldu 13y ago

> I hardly get much deep sleep due to anatomical issues essentially blocking my airways. I can't afford the surgery (even though I have insurance) I have snore-caused sleep apnea, are you referring to that? If so, a CPAP device could help you. It's a small cube you put on your nightdesk with a tube and a face (or nose) mask attached to it that allows you clear breathing, but increases pressure in your respiratory system so you won't snore as easily. I live in germany and my insurance covered it, but even if yours doesn't, 1k$ isn't too much for such a thing: http://www.thecpapshop.com/resmed-s9-autoset-cpap-machine-with-h5i-and-climateline-heated-tube http://www.thecpapshop.com/resmed-s9-autoset-cpap-machine-wi...

gte910h 13y ago

Have you had a sleep study done? It's 2 doctors office visits, 2 nights in a funky hotel room type lab, and they will often prescribe a machine called a CPAP if you really do have obstructive sleep problems. http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/cpap/ http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/cpap/ They're a little uncomfortable at first, but they get the job done.

r00fus 13y ago
I just spoke with my doctor regarding CPAPs recently, and the price has gone down considerably since I looked into it a few years ago… I hear it's less than a thousand I don't need one (mild hypopnea) yet, but it's nice to know that options exist. I had a coworker who, years ago, had sleep apnea (would fall asleep at keyboard at work), who subsequently got a CPAP and it's a night and day difference. I'm really glad for his improvements.

drzaiusapelord 13y ago

Sleep apnea? I have it too and couldn't stomach the CPAP machine. I read my sleep report and it turns out I didn't have any symptoms on my side. So I trained myself to sleep on my side and the symptoms went away. I wish my doctor told me that was an option before spending thousands on treatments, not to mention the time and stress of it all. If side sleeping doesn't help, I know there are DIY oral appliances you can buy. They're usually marketed just for snoring, but have the same effect on SA. You need to boil it, put it in your mouth so it gets an impression of your teeth, let it cool and wear it at night. It keeps your mouth open enough to help with airway issues. Might as well try it. I think its $20.

larrys 13y ago

Would suggest to anyone concerted with noise (not you I understand you have another issue as well) to get custom fitted ear plugs. Can be done by an an Audiologist. Make sure to also use the lubricant as well (helps with comfort and importantly blocks more sound). Price I paid was under $100. Bought a 2nd pair. They are great much better than the temporarily sound plugs (not to mention cheaper in the long run).

crazygringo 13y ago

As to the sounds -- it's not a perfect fix, but combinations of ear plugs / ear-plug-style-headphones / white noise can do wonders, both during sleep and in noisy offices, or when helicopters/leaf blowers/etc. are going. When construction in Manhattan starts at 7am on Saturday, it wakes me up, but I put the ear plugs back in and turn on white noise and I'm fine. When I'm at work and there's a helicopter or union strike or noisy coworker, I throw in the in-ear headphones (they form a seal) and turn on the white noise app on my phone. It totally sucks we have to do these things, but they can help a lot.

MasterXen 13y ago

I heard the hovering helicopter too (it was yesterday morning IIRC); it was around until at least 8am. I was so surprised by the continual sound (rather than passing-by) that I even googled how long a helicopter can hover for on a full tank.

mike_esspe 13y ago

Properly installed double glazing will block almost all sound, why not install them? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulated_glazing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulated_glazing

r00fus 13y ago
I have double-pane glass with an Argon spacer, and live close to a minor road that gets daily traffic (school/commute times). Plenty of sound gets through; the most effective sound insulating filler (Sulfur hexaflouride) is no longer available due to being a highly potent greenhouse gas.

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