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Hacker News: Best

204 points by zainny 13y ago

Kiro 13y ago
I wonder why this isn't advertised anywhere. Does it only include submissions from the past three days?
- taude 13y ago
  I never knew about "best" or "lists". Awesome. Thanks.
  - eitally 13y ago
    I believe you, but I don't know how anyone could miss the "best" page. It's one of only six links across the top banner of the HN site. Often it's more fun to peruse "new", though. https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest
    - jrochkind1 13y ago
      For me, there is no 'best' or 'list' link at the top of the page. Only if I go directly to the URLs for best or list, do those links get added to the nav bar. Normally the nav bar is just: > Hacker News new | threads | comments | ask | jobs | submit
      - eitally 13y ago
        Oops. I didn't realize this was added by the Hacker News Enhancement Suite Chrome Extension I've been using. Sorry for that accusation. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-news-enhancement-s/bappiabcodbpphnojdiaddhnilfnjmpm https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-news-enhanc...
    - namenotrequired 13y ago
      It's actually only in the top bar when you're on the best page. As far as I'm aware, it's only 'advertised' on the Lists page, which is the first of 12 links to the bottom of the page.
    - deleted 13y ago
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    - DanBC 13y ago
      Lists is in the lower left corner, just above the search box, under the horizontal rule. Lists | RSS | Bookmarklet | Guidelines | FAQ | DMCA | News News | Feature Requests | Bugs | Y Combinator | Apply | Library
Peroni 13y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists
hartator 13y ago
It seems to go back up to three days. This is great to catch up HN after fishing week-end!
Ecio78 13y ago
Out of curiosity, does anybody know why in the leaders list only the user "Libertatea" has no avg karma info?
- DanBC 13y ago
  Not enough comments yet.
  - Ecio78 13y ago
    I see, only few comments, but already 18334 points...
    - lelf 13y ago
      > only few comments … and 5 submission only for today
    - petercooper 13y ago
      Notice how it's almost entirely headlines from large news sites posted evenly pretty much every single day. This isn't an accusation as such but I'd suspect it's (semi)-automated or it's someone who is amazingly diligent and consistent in posting interesting news.
      - ccozan 13y ago
        o.O so many points! It doesn't look like a bot, but it has certainly a browser extension that posts to HN with a click.
        DanBC 13y ago
        There's the HN bookmarklet. Anyone considering similar extensions could make a visible guide for 80 characters, so submitters don't have to count chars.
      - mpyne 13y ago
        They're on Reddit too, same general technique and username. I'm leaning toward the 'amazingly diligent and consistent' theory myself. After all I have like no submissions and tons of comments, so who am I to judge? ;)
zainny 13y ago
In case anyone is wondering, what motivated me to submit this was simply the fact that while I've known about this section forever, a quick poll of people I know who visit HN revealed that it wasn't common knowledge. I have no idea why this and other sections (https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists) aren't linked from the main page in a prominent visible manner - especially /best which is great for people like me who check in every few days.
- yfefyf 13y ago
  Thank you. I've never heard of that either
- arvindsinghy 13y ago
  Thanks for pointing this out. I never knew about Best and Lists. :)
- level09 13y ago
  I used to go to http://hckrnews.com http://hckrnews.com to get a similar list, but this seems to use a different algorithm.
  - redidas 13y ago
    I haven't been to the Hacker News homepage for a long time since using hckrnews. Its such a nice way to get a quick overview of the day.
- ra 13y ago
  It's the first link in the footer.
- petercooper 13y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders is another fun page that used to be on the header a couple of years ago. Also, I have a simple site that tries to take a snapshot of the HN front page every hour so that I can catch up if I'm away for a few days: http://hackerslide.com/ http://hackerslide.com/
etherealG 13y ago
how does best differ from the homepage? not sure i get it.
- clone1018 13y ago
  Sorting based on points.
  - raldi 13y ago
    As opposed to...?
- namenotrequired 13y ago
  The home page has a complicated algorithm that seems to take many variables into account to determine the 'hottest' / 'best new' stories (including measures to punish cheating etc.). As far as I can see the 'best' page seems to simply take all articles submitted in the past ~3 days or so, sort them according to the number of points, and show the top 30 in that order. Of course, the 'best' page works only thanks to the upvotes articles get (mainly) on the home page.
- JacobAldridge 13y ago
  Time degrades points more slowly on /best, so it will usually show the top stories from the past 3(ish) days rather than the past 12-24 hours. Perfect for when you've been away for a few days and looking to invest some time in reading.
revenz 13y ago
also this https://news.ycombinator.com/classic https://news.ycombinator.com/classic
- S4M 13y ago
  and https://news.ycombinator.com/bestcomments https://news.ycombinator.com/bestcomments
- lucb1e 13y ago
  What is classic exactly, how does it differ? At a first glance it seems to prioritize age over points more than the current version.
  - samatman 13y ago
    Classic is pg's solution to the "Endless September" problem. Classic hn only counts front-page upvotes from users who have been around for awhile. I don't know what awhile is. Longer than me.
    - JacobAldridge 13y ago
      From memory it's the first year. I think I missed the cut off by a couple of weeks. I'm New Coke, but that still has more HN street cred than Coke Zero.
Ningzhi 13y ago
http://hckrnews.com/ http://hckrnews.com/
- glomph 13y ago
  This website has made hn like 10 times more addictive for me.
Arjuna 13y ago
The "Best" link is for recent (for some value of "recent"), top-rated submissions. For all-time, top-rated submissions: https://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=+&sortby=points+desc https://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=+&sort... I wrote a previous post with some other "points-related" queries here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4659939 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4659939
- estel 13y ago
  Does HN Search only have content from the last (time period)?There's definitely some stuff that seems to be missing.
__xtrimsky 13y ago
Oh nice, I was using rss of other people that did this themselfs, but know I might use this! EDIT: Nevermind, this doesn't have rss!
superasn 13y ago
Another noteworthy hacker news digest: http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/ http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/

Hacker News: Best

204 points by zainny 13y ago

Kiro 13y ago

I wonder why this isn't advertised anywhere. Does it only include submissions from the past three days?

taude 13y ago
I never knew about "best" or "lists". Awesome. Thanks.
- eitally 13y ago
  I believe you, but I don't know how anyone could miss the "best" page. It's one of only six links across the top banner of the HN site. Often it's more fun to peruse "new", though. https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest
  - jrochkind1 13y ago
    For me, there is no 'best' or 'list' link at the top of the page. Only if I go directly to the URLs for best or list, do those links get added to the nav bar. Normally the nav bar is just: > Hacker News new | threads | comments | ask | jobs | submit
    - eitally 13y ago
      Oops. I didn't realize this was added by the Hacker News Enhancement Suite Chrome Extension I've been using. Sorry for that accusation. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-news-enhancement-s/bappiabcodbpphnojdiaddhnilfnjmpm https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-news-enhanc...
  - namenotrequired 13y ago
    It's actually only in the top bar when you're on the best page. As far as I'm aware, it's only 'advertised' on the Lists page, which is the first of 12 links to the bottom of the page.
  - deleted 13y ago
    [deleted]
  - DanBC 13y ago
    Lists is in the lower left corner, just above the search box, under the horizontal rule. Lists | RSS | Bookmarklet | Guidelines | FAQ | DMCA | News News | Feature Requests | Bugs | Y Combinator | Apply | Library

Peroni 13y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists

hartator 13y ago

It seems to go back up to three days. This is great to catch up HN after fishing week-end!

Ecio78 13y ago

Out of curiosity, does anybody know why in the leaders list only the user "Libertatea" has no avg karma info?

DanBC 13y ago
Not enough comments yet.
- Ecio78 13y ago
  I see, only few comments, but already 18334 points...
  - lelf 13y ago
    > only few comments … and 5 submission only for today
  - petercooper 13y ago
    Notice how it's almost entirely headlines from large news sites posted evenly pretty much every single day. This isn't an accusation as such but I'd suspect it's (semi)-automated or it's someone who is amazingly diligent and consistent in posting interesting news.
    - ccozan 13y ago
      o.O so many points! It doesn't look like a bot, but it has certainly a browser extension that posts to HN with a click.
      - DanBC 13y ago
        There's the HN bookmarklet. Anyone considering similar extensions could make a visible guide for 80 characters, so submitters don't have to count chars.
    - mpyne 13y ago
      They're on Reddit too, same general technique and username. I'm leaning toward the 'amazingly diligent and consistent' theory myself. After all I have like no submissions and tons of comments, so who am I to judge? ;)

zainny 13y ago

In case anyone is wondering, what motivated me to submit this was simply the fact that while I've known about this section forever, a quick poll of people I know who visit HN revealed that it wasn't common knowledge. I have no idea why this and other sections (https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists) aren't linked from the main page in a prominent visible manner - especially /best which is great for people like me who check in every few days.

yfefyf 13y ago
Thank you. I've never heard of that either
arvindsinghy 13y ago
Thanks for pointing this out. I never knew about Best and Lists. :)
level09 13y ago
I used to go to http://hckrnews.com http://hckrnews.com to get a similar list, but this seems to use a different algorithm.
- redidas 13y ago
  I haven't been to the Hacker News homepage for a long time since using hckrnews. Its such a nice way to get a quick overview of the day.
ra 13y ago
It's the first link in the footer.
petercooper 13y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders is another fun page that used to be on the header a couple of years ago. Also, I have a simple site that tries to take a snapshot of the HN front page every hour so that I can catch up if I'm away for a few days: http://hackerslide.com/ http://hackerslide.com/

etherealG 13y ago

how does best differ from the homepage? not sure i get it.

clone1018 13y ago
Sorting based on points.
- raldi 13y ago
  As opposed to...?
namenotrequired 13y ago
The home page has a complicated algorithm that seems to take many variables into account to determine the 'hottest' / 'best new' stories (including measures to punish cheating etc.). As far as I can see the 'best' page seems to simply take all articles submitted in the past ~3 days or so, sort them according to the number of points, and show the top 30 in that order. Of course, the 'best' page works only thanks to the upvotes articles get (mainly) on the home page.
JacobAldridge 13y ago
Time degrades points more slowly on /best, so it will usually show the top stories from the past 3(ish) days rather than the past 12-24 hours. Perfect for when you've been away for a few days and looking to invest some time in reading.

revenz 13y ago

also this https://news.ycombinator.com/classic https://news.ycombinator.com/classic

S4M 13y ago
and https://news.ycombinator.com/bestcomments https://news.ycombinator.com/bestcomments
lucb1e 13y ago
What is classic exactly, how does it differ? At a first glance it seems to prioritize age over points more than the current version.
- samatman 13y ago
  Classic is pg's solution to the "Endless September" problem. Classic hn only counts front-page upvotes from users who have been around for awhile. I don't know what awhile is. Longer than me.
  - JacobAldridge 13y ago
    From memory it's the first year. I think I missed the cut off by a couple of weeks. I'm New Coke, but that still has more HN street cred than Coke Zero.

Ningzhi 13y ago

http://hckrnews.com/ http://hckrnews.com/

glomph 13y ago
This website has made hn like 10 times more addictive for me.

Arjuna 13y ago

The "Best" link is for recent (for some value of "recent"), top-rated submissions. For all-time, top-rated submissions: https://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=+&sortby=points+desc https://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=+&sort... I wrote a previous post with some other "points-related" queries here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4659939 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4659939

estel 13y ago
Does HN Search only have content from the last (time period)?There's definitely some stuff that seems to be missing.

__xtrimsky 13y ago

Oh nice, I was using rss of other people that did this themselfs, but know I might use this! EDIT: Nevermind, this doesn't have rss!

superasn 13y ago

Another noteworthy hacker news digest: http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/ http://www.daemonology.net/hn-daily/