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Crap, I had just recently migrated all of my accounts to my new Lavabit address, paid for a year of service, etc. Although I've seen some mentioned, what recom

by Kelet 13y ago

Crap, I had just recently migrated all of my accounts to my new Lavabit address, paid for a year of service, etc. Although I've seen some mentioned, what recommendations does HN have for a new e-mail service? Preferably something stable and also respecting of a user's privacy. Or perhaps you can only have 1 of the aforementioned attributes.

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- throwit1979 13y ago
  Which will work fine until countermail gets an NSL too. Hosting your own, in your physical posession, with mercury-switch or dead-man-switch triggered thermite self-destruct is really the only option left.
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  - aet 13y ago
    And, snail mail.
    - lightbritefight 13y ago
      Funny how the Fourth amendment still applies to the primary form of communication we don't use.
aleksis 13y ago
I just lost access to my primary email account.
- Kelet 13y ago
  Me too. It took a long time to update all of my account information for every website and service I use. It took me a long time to get all of my friends, colleagues, etc. notified that I had switched. I now have a trail of being under my Lavabit account. Commits, patches, websites, services, friends all thinking I'm still under that account. Now I've got to do it once again, only a few weeks later. Sigh. I can't blame Lavabit really. Just a situation I'd hope to avoid.
- unethical_ban 13y ago
  Do what I do! I have my own domain name, currently hosting with Google Apps. If I get the motivation to move to another host like myself, I can do it without changing contact information.
  - throwit1979 13y ago
    Oh good, because Google will never be subject to an NSL.
    - unethical_ban 13y ago
      At the moment, I accept the danger and resent myself for it. Moving to a custom domain is one step in the process, though. And really, since all your email hops through relays constantly, the only truly effective anti-spy technology is message encryption, which wouldn't depend on where the messages end up.
    - sneak 13y ago
      Everyone you converse with uses gmail.
    - MrKurtz 13y ago
      At least they're transparent (as one can be) about it: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/transparency-report-shedding-more-light.html http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/transparency-report-s...
  - a3n 13y ago
poulson 13y ago
I'm in the exact same position. It's quite frustrating. EDIT: I turned my frustration into a $100 donation to his legal defense. I hope that more people do the same.
marssaxman 13y ago
Run your own server, on your own hardware?
mllerustad 13y ago
This is why I contributed to Mailpile(http://www.mailpile.is/)'s http://www.mailpile.is/)'s fundraiser and hang out in their IRC channel. We need more, better, easy-to-use distributed, crypto-friendly mail software, and we need them yesterday. :/
- jerfelix 13y ago
  bitmessage may be our only hope.
  - nwh 13y ago
    Bitmessage is fairly atrocious to use in practise. It's slow (by design) and extremely difficult to use properly. Moreover, I'd bet my hat that it's not secure.

by Kelet 13y ago

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throwit1979 13y ago
Which will work fine until countermail gets an NSL too. Hosting your own, in your physical posession, with mercury-switch or dead-man-switch triggered thermite self-destruct is really the only option left.
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- aet 13y ago
  And, snail mail.
  - lightbritefight 13y ago
    Funny how the Fourth amendment still applies to the primary form of communication we don't use.

aleksis 13y ago

I just lost access to my primary email account.

Kelet 13y ago
Me too. It took a long time to update all of my account information for every website and service I use. It took me a long time to get all of my friends, colleagues, etc. notified that I had switched. I now have a trail of being under my Lavabit account. Commits, patches, websites, services, friends all thinking I'm still under that account. Now I've got to do it once again, only a few weeks later. Sigh. I can't blame Lavabit really. Just a situation I'd hope to avoid.
unethical_ban 13y ago
Do what I do! I have my own domain name, currently hosting with Google Apps. If I get the motivation to move to another host like myself, I can do it without changing contact information.
- throwit1979 13y ago
  Oh good, because Google will never be subject to an NSL.
  - unethical_ban 13y ago
    At the moment, I accept the danger and resent myself for it. Moving to a custom domain is one step in the process, though. And really, since all your email hops through relays constantly, the only truly effective anti-spy technology is message encryption, which wouldn't depend on where the messages end up.
  - sneak 13y ago
    Everyone you converse with uses gmail.
  - MrKurtz 13y ago
    At least they're transparent (as one can be) about it: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/transparency-report-shedding-more-light.html http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2013/03/transparency-report-s...
- a3n 13y ago

poulson 13y ago

I'm in the exact same position. It's quite frustrating. EDIT: I turned my frustration into a $100 donation to his legal defense. I hope that more people do the same.

marssaxman 13y ago

Run your own server, on your own hardware?

mllerustad 13y ago

This is why I contributed to Mailpile(http://www.mailpile.is/)'s http://www.mailpile.is/)'s fundraiser and hang out in their IRC channel. We need more, better, easy-to-use distributed, crypto-friendly mail software, and we need them yesterday. :/

jerfelix 13y ago
bitmessage may be our only hope.
- nwh 13y ago
  Bitmessage is fairly atrocious to use in practise. It's slow (by design) and extremely difficult to use properly. Moreover, I'd bet my hat that it's not secure.