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Want a job in Silicon Valley?
- cjwake 13y agoInteresting proposition. Seems like a no brainer given the dynamic of things today — the biggest problem is connecting the right candidate with the right opportunity, and half the time it's an awareness problem whereby the right candidate isn't aware of the opportunity b/c they don't sit in the bay area to hear about things through traditional channels.
- thaumasiotes 13y agoI sit in the bay area. I hear about nothing. This site assumes that "I want a job in SV" necessarily entails "I don't already live there". Could I, already having a job there, try to find a different one via this site?
- justinwi 13y agoabsolutely! If you're already here you're in even higher demand. Please send your details via the form or email me at justin at link's domain.
- seanconaty 13y agoDoes this remind anyone one else of the Grapes of Wrath?
- Matt_Mickiewicz 13y agoInteresting arbitrage...
- ryanSrich 13y agoI used to really be attracted to SV. The companies, weather, opportunities; all of it seemed great. Then I realized the living expenses, the government regulations set forth by the state, and the overall smugness of some people and it really turned me off. Case in point. This websites says "work with the smartest people in the world" as if SV has the highest concentration of intelligent people in the world and as if that's even a measurable statistic.
- justinwi 13y agoGood call Ryan, on both accounts. On the wording, I've tweaked it to include "some of" the smartest people in the world. But doesn't address the bigger issue of smugness, which I've noticed too. Certainly something in the SV attitude that includes a holy-than-thou vibe, but now that I think about it, I get that vibe whenever I'm around successful entrepreneurs - no matter what city I'm in. Re the living expenses - it's definitely a deterrent if you're starting your own company. If you're working for someone else though, from what I've seen, the increased pay more than offsets the increased cost of living.
- alxp 13y ago> from what I've seen, the increased pay more than offsets the increased cost of living Only if you're willing to downsize. Some people are, but it's a tough sell to lots of people.
- justinwi 13y agoAbsolutely right. But who needs all that space anyway? Apartments are for sleeping...you'll spend all your waking hours at work ;)
- binarycrusader 13y agoThe living expenses are a real burden, and the average rental rates in the core of the San Francisco Bay Area have increased ~20-30% over the last three years. They're building new apartments all around the bay now and the greedy realty vultures somehow think it's reasonable to charge as much as $3500-4000USD per month for them (one and two bedrooms). That's easily a mortgage payment on a brand new home out here. The older apartment complexes have seen this and have been raising their rates as well (the monthly market rate on my apartment went from $2150 USD to $2750 USD in the last six months I've lived there even though it's in the south bay area). The worst part of all of this is the realization that I'll likely never be able to afford a home out here (median house price is currently ~$500K USD): http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_23249121/bay-area-median-home-price-soars-april http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_23249121/bay-area-med...
- codex_irl 13y agoI currently work from home and am interested in a new job in SV, however all of the companies I have spoken with will not allow me to telecommute 2-3 days per week. I don't see any reason why I need to give up 2 hours of my day traveling to / from work on the days when I need to work exclusively on coding. So I'll stay where I am.
- bjpcjp 13y agoI live in Austin. Same concentration of crazy smart people, only with less attitude. Did I mention that you can actually buy a house here? With a chance of paying it off? And a 25 minute commute? THIS is why 1 of every 50 cars in Austin has a California license plate. EDIT: there's less access to VC money here. But that doesn't seem to be stopping people.
- debt 13y agoCool. Have fun in Austin.
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- fistofjohnwayne 13y agoI think it would be good for you to realize that what gives your life fulfillment (mortgages, shorter average commutes than SF) might not mean anything to other people.
- bjpcjp 13y agoI do - an excellent point. Don't get me wrong, I love coming out there to visit. (Especially in June/July/August.) But the cost/benefit seems way out of whack unless you've already done a startup & have an inside straight to more startup $, or already have family in the area. It's not just me: http://www.quora.com/Silicon-Valley/Whats-the-dark-side-of-Silicon-Valley http://www.quora.com/Silicon-Valley/Whats-the-dark-side-of-S...
- EternalFury 13y agoDude, hook me up, I would like to move my family to Austin.
- bjpcjp 13y agoHere's a great starting point: http://capitalfactory.com/ http://capitalfactory.com/. They are connected.
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- donretag 13y agoWant a job in Silicon Valley? NO. You should never lead off with an open-ended question. And I seriously do not want a job in Silicon Valley, but that doesn't stop the recruiters from contacting me. If a developer with tons of experience hasn't worked in SV by now, they probably never will.
- acjohnson55 13y agoI think you proved the usefulness of the open-ended question: filtering out people like yourself, who clearly aren't interested.
- blhack 13y agoI don't terribly want to move to SV, but I am a bit curious what this will return. Sorry if I'm wasting your time customerdevlabs! I mostly signed up out of curiosity. Obviously, though, if you want to pay me $150k/year, give me 3 months of vacation, let me telecommute 2/5 days, pay my moving expenses, and give me fun problems, I will move tomorrow.
- Glyptodon 13y agoPretty much a lot like I feel. I'd rather not live in the Bay Area, but give a fat enough offer and I'd live anywhere.
- justinwi 13y agoThe only thing SV doesn't offer is 3 months of vacation - unlimited vacation on the other hand is fairly popular: http://www.quora.com/Startups/Which-companies-have-an-unlimited-vacation-policy http://www.quora.com/Startups/Which-companies-have-an-unlimi... There's a war on for talent now. Be careful what you wish for.
- potatolicious 13y ago"Unlimited vacation" is also grossly misleading in SV though. I have seen very, very few companies that actually live up to their own hype about encouraging employees to take off as much time as they need. More often than not, in SV at least, "unlimited vacation" policies is really just code for "don't take any". The small print is also "if you really do take a lot of time off, even if you're great, you don't belong in our Red-Bull-shotgunning startupy experience".
- johnjlocke 13y agoIt's the present day version of machismo.
- PeterisP 13y agoWhy do you want to move people physically there? I could work there, but I can afford to choose and I don't want to move my family out, it's not worth it.
- michaelochurch 13y agoInspired by this, I think I came upon a startup idea that could actually work. I'm probably not to pursue it (my job search is going really well and I'll probably take something else) but anyone who's interested can reach out. I'm not afraid to share the idea.
- Glyptodon 13y agoI would love a better job, but when it comes to the Bay Area I have a really hard time with: 1. Housing costs (too expensive) 2. Transportation time / locality (takes too long to get elsewhere in the Bay Area, probably can't live near the job because of #1) 3. Climate - San Fran is rather cold nearly all year round. 4. Because of 1 and 2 likely would not have a garage or space to do projects in. 5. Sometimes things seem rather legally onerous in CA/Bay Area. 6. Regional tunnel vision. When I lived in Northern California I got sick of hearing how it was 'the best place on Earth.'
- justinwi 13y agoAll fair points, and don't forget the ever-present parking enforcers. I pay $100/month in accidental tickets despite being here for years knowing all the rules. On the positive side there, there's an "energy" (please excuse hippie nonsense) to people here I haven't seen in other places. A kind personal momentum that is intoxicating - hard not to get crazy shit done around here. Certainly not for everyone, including me on occasion, and it's got its downsides...but I haven't seen a place better for the ambitious to design their future than SV.
- cj 13y ago> and don't forget the ever-present parking enforcers. I pay $100/month in accidental tickets A sad reality.
- scarmig 13y agore:6 Isn't it? I kid, I kid. Mostly. But the revealed preferences of where people choose to move and at what price does say a lot about places. Most people, given a choice of buying a nice house in Fargo or Macon for $150k or a nice house in San Francisco or Palo Alto for $150k, probably will go for the latter.
- potatolicious 13y agoA bit of a false dichotomy, no? The choices aren't necessarily Palo Alto vs. Fargo. I moved out of SF about a year ago, I am now paying less for housing, in a better neighborhood, in Manhattan. The alternative to paying ridiculous sums to live in SV/SF isn't a complete change in lifestyle.
- EternalFury 13y agoI have been here for the past 13 years. The cost of living has risen so much that I am considering a relocation. Housing prices are insane, pretty much every else is more expensive than anywhere else too. The traffic is now back to .com-boom levels and highways are constantly congested. If you are young (20-30), single, and are willing to have roommates to group up into some apartment, then SV may be an adventure for you. However, as you grow in life, you will need a pretty high level of income to feel secure in this environment. Start-ups would be better off setting up shop in underdeveloped parts of the country, however, as the cost of labour here puts a serious overhead over any fledgling company.
- NDizzle 13y agoI mean this in the nicest way possible - not as a troll. The site needs checkboxes for 'are you young and innocent' and 'are you single and/or do you not care about your family and personal free time' Those are two huge requirements for most companies out here, but they can't admit this kind of stuff by law.
- johnjlocke 13y agoAmen brother. As a wise man once said, it's not what you earn, it's what you keep.
- hayksaakian 13y agoThe OP is implying that there are an adequate number of qualified 'business people' and they just want hires that will do the dirty work.
- justinwi 13y agoThere are an adequate number of funded startups that want devs/designers to help build their empires. https://angel.co/jobs https://angel.co/jobs
- conductr 13y agoTaking a cue from another post currently on the front page; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5799838 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5799838 If you live in the future, want a job in Austin?
- wyclif 13y agoI love Austin! Vastly prefer it to the Bay Area for a number of reasons.
- makerops 13y agoAccording to some random cost of living calculator I just pulled up on google, I would need 150,000$ to live in SF based on my current salary, and that is a lateral move, are there dev jobs paying 2-300k in SV?
- potatolicious 13y agoYes. If your'e senior enough and are in a vertical that's in-demand enough, $200-300K is possible. That being said, don't trust cost of living calculators, they are full of crap. Go on Padmapper and really scope out the cost of housing in your area. If you really are thinking about it, fly there and look at the actual costs of things. Taking the mean/median of anything when it comes to cost of living just means you have a systemic way of calculating a number that has no relevance to reality.
- catkin 13y agoThis is actually remarkably similar to the Silicon Valley Internship Programme (http://www.siliconvalleyinternship.com http://www.siliconvalleyinternship.com) except that SVIP targets itself towards British CS/SE grads specifically.
- acjohnson55 13y agoCool idea. Make one for NYC!
- mindcrime 13y agoForget Silicon Valley, move to the Research Triangle Park area. We have great weather, a burgeoning startup scene, great food, good public schools, great universities, "day trip" access to both the mountains and the beach, reasonable cost of living, a decent (but not spectacular) live music scene, and the largest research park in the world[1]. [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Triangle_Park http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Triangle_Park
- bjpcjp 13y agoProps to RTP too. Not to mention better basketball.
- EternalFury 13y agoAny site to get jobs there?
- mindcrime 13y agoHere's one listing of some local startups who are hiring: http://www.downtowndurhamstartups.com/content/job+board/16048 http://www.downtowndurhamstartups.com/content/job+board/1604... Also, there is a "Tech Jobs Under The Big Top" job fair that is held periodically at the American Underground in Durham, where startups pitch prospects to come work for them. There was just one in April, not sure when the next one is. But check http://bigtop.it http://bigtop.it for more info.
- hkarthik 13y agoThe housing situation in the Bay Area is a real mess. That's the reason so few experienced engineers are willing to pack up and move there. It's surprising to me that despite being so innovative and forward thinking, startups and companies in the Bay Area aren't realizing they have to accept this as a constraint and start hiring remotely and find ways to make it work. Yes, it's sub-optimal to have a remote team in many ways when you're in the early stages. But you have to balance that against fighting for every new hire and then trying to avoid watching them get poached by the newly funded startup across the street. If I were starting a company in SF, this would be a major distraction and something I'd want to avoid at any cost.
- prostoalex 13y agoYeah, every pitch for a SF company should include this http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/real-estate/2013/05/median-home-price-hits-1-million-in.html http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/blog/real-estate/201... in fine print.
- johnjlocke 13y agoYou hit the nail on the head. It kills me how much technology we have yet working with a remote team isn't even something a lot of top design teams will even consider. We have video conferencing in our pockets, but nope, gotta drive 3 hours (or more) every day in order to produce good design. It's baffling.
- fm1102 13y agoDoes the "fly you here" idea apply to candidates on different continents?
- justinwi 13y agoAbsolutely.
- mgarfias 13y agoNo.
- mgarfias 13y agoNo.