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Confused -- Why all the rigamarole, instead of going RIAA-style after the thousands-to-millions of actual porn copyright-infringers?

by jopof 13y ago

adventured 13y ago
Because the porn industry doesn't have the representation in DC; it doesn't have the centralized power to pursue highly expensive legal warfare; it doesn't have any sympathy vote; it has very little power; it has relatively little money compared to Hollywood or the recording industry (to attract K Street lobbyists). There is no porn industry equivalent of the RIAA.
wmf 13y ago
I'm not sure what you're asking, but Prenda's lawsuits sound very RIAA-style to me (although it's not clear that any of the settlement money ever went back to the porn makers). I assume Prenda didn't just make up the IP addresses they were suing, although that doesn't mean their defendants actually torrented the porn in question either.
bjustin 13y ago
Because they (the lawyers) didn't care about copyright infringement, they just wanted settlements. Copyright trolling is typically lawyer-, not rightsholder-, driven, with no intent to take cases to court.
DanBC 13y ago
They did go after very many people. They did these cases one at a time because it's easier to do that for them. People either paid up, or they didn't pay up in which case PrendaLaw dropped the case. This case is awesome because they tried to do exactly that, but an alert Judge thought something not just unpleasant but actually fraudulent was going on. What that says about all the other cases (where Prenda got millions, apparently) is open for discussion.
smackfu 13y ago
I think they had some trouble keeping their real porn-producer clients. Since the real clients were real parties to the suit, they could be countersued directly, which happened a couple of times. I think they ended up settling and paying out, rather than risking it. http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/2012/01/31/defendant-strikes-back-sues-hard-drive-productions-and-steeles-extortion-outfit/ http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/2012/01/31/defendant-strikes...

Confused -- Why all the rigamarole, instead of going RIAA-style after the thousands-to-millions of actual porn copyright-infringers?

by jopof 13y ago

Confused -- Why all the rigamarole, instead of going RIAA-style after the thousands-to-millions of actual porn copyright-infringers?

adventured 13y ago

Because the porn industry doesn't have the representation in DC; it doesn't have the centralized power to pursue highly expensive legal warfare; it doesn't have any sympathy vote; it has very little power; it has relatively little money compared to Hollywood or the recording industry (to attract K Street lobbyists). There is no porn industry equivalent of the RIAA.

wmf 13y ago

I'm not sure what you're asking, but Prenda's lawsuits sound very RIAA-style to me (although it's not clear that any of the settlement money ever went back to the porn makers). I assume Prenda didn't just make up the IP addresses they were suing, although that doesn't mean their defendants actually torrented the porn in question either.

bjustin 13y ago

Because they (the lawyers) didn't care about copyright infringement, they just wanted settlements. Copyright trolling is typically lawyer-, not rightsholder-, driven, with no intent to take cases to court.

DanBC 13y ago

They did go after very many people. They did these cases one at a time because it's easier to do that for them. People either paid up, or they didn't pay up in which case PrendaLaw dropped the case. This case is awesome because they tried to do exactly that, but an alert Judge thought something not just unpleasant but actually fraudulent was going on. What that says about all the other cases (where Prenda got millions, apparently) is open for discussion.

smackfu 13y ago

I think they had some trouble keeping their real porn-producer clients. Since the real clients were real parties to the suit, they could be countersued directly, which happened a couple of times. I think they ended up settling and paying out, rather than risking it. http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/2012/01/31/defendant-strikes-back-sues-hard-drive-productions-and-steeles-extortion-outfit/ http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/2012/01/31/defendant-strikes...