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New Hacker News
- samholmes 13y agoThis is a continuation of a post I made a couple days ago, title "Hacker News Redesign". It was a link to a jsbin. This time, it's a Github Page, which means it can update, so check back often. I plan on accepting feedback on this redesign. I already took some feedback from the last post. This time, I can update the project upon feedback, and keep a dialog about the design. Hope you enjoy it! :)
- hwaal 13y agoYes, this would be lovely! What about adding a more button?
- hipsters_unite 13y agoNice to see that you've changed the hovers to being the HN grey, I think I said on the first one that it was too 'Black text on white' and this time your subtle improvements have made a big difference to legibility so far as I'm concerned. Well done!
- andyhmltn 13y agoIt's nice! I would avoid the icon for the upvote though. It looks like a pipe (|) at first glance.
- RossM 13y agoLove it :) One minor nitpick is that the upvote arrows aren't in the same place when the post number is a bit bigger (i.e. hover over the arrow for post 9 then 10).
- fabriceleal 13y agoSome straight-to-the-point feedback on the design: The font could be bigger/wider; the white on orange on the "top-bar" (what do you call this?) looks weird. Also, on a wide screen and with the browser window maximized, the number of comments information is very far apart from the title-author-time. I have to move by eyes from the left to the right part of the screen to see this information. I noticed that that distance is adjusted by the browser window width; I would recommend to set a cap on this distance.
- jpswade 13y agoComments don't load.
- EugeneOZ 13y agoNot faster than old. At least less ugly.
- samholmes 13y agoIt's slower because it hooks into an unofficial API. YCHN has no API I can use, so I had to use what some other sites were able to scrap.
- xwowsersx 13y agoI dunno why, but that font seriously hurts my eyes.
- mynameisvlad 13y agoHeader? It's because it's Arial Narrow. It's one of those differences that's fairly subtle (like not a completely different font family) but different enough that it completely stands out, so obviously, the worst.
- orta 13y agoThe mouse distance to go from the link's text to the comments seems really far, IMO that's the most important link per row. I thought the points section was the comments.
- mynameisvlad 13y agoI hate hate hate the Arial Narrow. It's too jarring of a difference between the header and the content. I'd keep it at non-narrow.
- Blahah 13y agoCompletely agree - it looks cramped and distracting.
- spajus 13y agoWhy?
- softbuilder 13y agoBiggest problem that I wish someone would address is usability for mobile. About 1/3 of my time on the site is with my phone. Trying to select the Comments link instead of the article link is like playing Operation. Same for upvoting.
- neeee 13y agoThis looks like it would break completely on mobile — http://luz.lu/nhnm.png http://luz.lu/nhnm.png.
- taproot 13y agoDon't forget the disappearing a the reply button does in chrome.
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- obeattie 13y agoI use HackerWeb. It's read-only (you can't comment/vote) but it does work well http://hackerwebapp.com/ http://hackerwebapp.com/
- drpancake 13y agoI've used this site for years: http://ihackernews.com http://ihackernews.com
- neeee 13y agoOPs site seems to it's API.
- lukeholder 13y agoif your on iOS I highly recommend HackerNode App.
- mike_g 13y agoon the ipad text that is too long for one line is displayed partly in the next line, intercepting with new line text, and it is making me sad
- rurounijones 13y agoRequires JavaScript while the current site doesn't which is an automatic black mark in my book. Also having the comments link on the exact opposite side to the story link is annoying for me since I usually middle click the link and the comments link in succession
- dariot 13y agoOn small pc screens the number of comments for long rows overlaps the number of comments in the following row.
- glomph 13y agoNo one has beaten http://hckrnews.com/ http://hckrnews.com/ in my mind.
- jvzr 13y agoDitto. Unread comments count is a godsend.
- alptrv 13y agoYeah, I'm using it since it was created. Funny that visiting HN associates for me with visiting hckrnews.com
- etcet 13y agoIt got updated maybe a few weeks ago. The style was tweaked and I think there were some changes to fix how the 'Last Visit' break is shown. When I go to read HN I type hckrnews.com.
- andrewingram 13y agoA few criticisms: - Zero-indexing the post list is cute, but I don't think it helps with clarity. - On a similar note, you've made the ranking a lot more visible, whereas before it was information I largely ignored. I'm not convinced it's actually important information - I prefer chunky triangles to thin arrows to signify upvotes. - By moving the secondary post information (points, author) to the side, it's become less clear that it's not part of the title. I'd increase the typographic contrast here. - Number of comments is probably the 2nd thing I look at after the title, having it over on the right makes it harder to visually associate the comments count + link with its submission. Zebra-striping could help, but I'm not convinced having it on the right is a good choice. - You've dropped the ability to flag posts, is this deliberate or an oversight? Overall I like what you're trying to do here, but obviously any changes to the design are going to be a hard sell.
- sthkr 13y agoI've been using the Hipster News chrome extension to make it look different and it's been quite good so far. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hipsternews/midnccdcbhikpniledkdhojbhdnkkkdb https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hipsternews/midncc... It looks similar to the DesignerNews website,
- weego 13y agoMy initial impressions are: 1) it's harder to visually skim down the page looking for interesting links because the row spacing is too high. The background being white and the text black also doesn't help this. Softening either the font color or the background is a common trick to making things feel more comfortable. 2) clicking into the comments being way over the right is something of an anti-pattern, infact all the information placed to the right of the post title/link is far less useful than the link to the comments to the point where the user that posted it and when it was posted is entirely irrelevant to me yet logically due to the position has higher priority. 3) points should be on the left as the up arrow and points are implicitly linked in a functionality -> data relationship. 4) the margin between the left border and the index number and the other margins is jarringly inequal. I'm guessing it's double due to the way you've specified margins. Similarly the margins that create the leading between the rows on the first (and bottom margin on the last) and subsequent rows has an unpleasant inequality. 5) the uneven baseline (the HN in the logotype and the K) in the header over-emphasises the height of the font used for the title and links in the header and gives the impression that it might not all quite line up when it does. 6) also in the heading the kerning is too tight for the size and color choices of the font which makes it feel more blurry and rough than needed/intended.
- conradfr 13y agoI don't really care about a redesign, but my god I'd like collapsible comments.
- rdl 13y agoI'd like the following in HN: 1) Keep not requiring JS 2) White background; the low-contrast design of HN is one of the things I hate secondmost 3) Move upvote/downvote arrows, article title, submitter, flag, etc. apart, so someone using an iPhone/iPad never hits the wrong thing. Ideally, also make actions like voting revocable, and show my current vote for confirmation (e.g. if I've upvoted something show me a highlighted upvote arrow which I can select again to remove; don't just disappear the arrow. You also would ideally support the "special" HN functions -- e.g. when YC sends out questions to an applicant, it might not be seen if you never use the "real" hn site, so a reskin might be an issue.
- lucb1e 13y agoThere is a Feature Requests thread
- crucialfelix 13y agoI think the non flashy design of HN is a feature. eg. hilariously unstyled login page. It means people need to use their brains to realize why all these people congregate here : for the content and discussion. If the site is altered to make it easier to post and comment faster then I am guessing the quality of conversation would go down. Currently you are aware that the comment needs to be well written and not frivolous. Anything about the interface that makes it faster to read and comment will move the usage in the direction of frivolity.
- yashodhan 13y agoIt's very reminiscent of early reddit, with its ugly interface. The ugly interface was actually a feature and a usability bonus. It kept out a lot of riff raff that tried to migrate to reddit from Digg (which at the time had a larger community). I think HN should have an element of difficulty to its UX, because that keeps the user standard high.
- mtgx 13y agoToo bright? A little off-topic, but I've just discovered Hacker News 2 [1] for Android, and I love pretty much everything about it (except its icon perhaps). I love its sidebar menu, that some of Google's apps use, too, and I hope it becomes a default way to do menus in Android. And I also prefer its "greyish" background, which I think is much better for the eyes than simply a white background. I strongly recommend everyone with Android tries it. It even has a "night mode": [1] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airlocksoftware.hackernews&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5haXJsb2Nrc29mdHdhcmUuaGFja2VybmV3cyJd https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airlocksof...
- vansteen 13y agoFirst impression: 1/ You cannot visualize which link has been previously visited. Important for me! 2/ It's harder to read. Too much white spaces maybe.
- k-mcgrady 13y agoI've never been too fond of how HN looks, but the more attempts I see to improve it the more I realise how good the current design is. It may not look pretty but it works very, very well.
- webreac 13y agono, thanks. Too much wasted space. Too much contrast (white background). Too much effort to associate the right column with the title on the left (lack of zebra). Tabular form is something of the past ;-) The single improvement I see for HN would be to remove the number at the left of the titles.
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- nightson 13y agoAnyone using this css? http://userstyles.org/styles/46270/georgify-for-hacker-news-solarized http://userstyles.org/styles/46270/georgify-for-hacker-news-...
- aaronpk 13y agoWhy did you remove the domain? It's super useful to see the domain the article is on because it gives a little more information about what the link might be.
- samholmes 13y agoI've updated some things to this design. * I made the background not white, which seemed to be hard on the eyes; I decided to keep the color scheme from orignal HN. * Changed vote button icon; moved point count together with the button. * Moved comments from the right to the left, closer to the link and vote button. Reason: it's too important of an element to have it be all on the very far right. * Moved less important content (time and poster) to the far right. * Internal stuff: I'm using localStorage APIs to cache the data I'm scrapping from a third party hackernews API source. This is because the source kept getting hiccups. Here are my questions to the rest of those who are still interested in this endeavor: Should I go with grey text on white, or black text on tanish grey (like it is now)? Are the icons too distracting? Are they good, or would you suggest I do something else? Maybe I should ditch the orange background on these icons, and go with orange text when mousing over the buttons? Some idea I have planned: * Search field in header * Automatic next page loading with ---page n--- separators (if I can get this to work with the API I'm using) * Replace submit button with a visually persistent composer item. Let me know what you think of these ideas too.