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Oh snap! Sorry I missed the boat on letting you have fun with the CSS (I'd be glad to point it back if you would enjoy it!) But yes, this was built in a few h

by slifty 14y ago

Oh snap! Sorry I missed the boat on letting you have fun with the CSS (I'd be glad to point it back if you would enjoy it!) But yes, this was built in a few hours and most of that time was spent playing with caching and deployment. Not so much "lazy" as "rushed." (considering this is for the lulz, I'm OK with it being called rushed.) So yes, to be clear, this was a "lets have quick fun and make a satirical mashup" not a "lets spend a week designing a web site that looks like The Onion." Not sure where scum comes into play given that fact, but I'm sorry if the project pissed anyone off over there. In my experience different people react to détournement in different ways when they are the ones being shifted around. As for the circles, you're right about not us being in touch with the dev teams over there. Regarding fonts, noted; I'll wait and see if there is a formal response from The Onion on these fronts but you clearly know the first-hand vibe -- if that's upsetting people I can remove them. As for the other media we're aware of that and will be making a move soon, THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY FINGERS ON A HAND!

sp332 14y ago
Regarding fonts: it's not the Onion you really have to worry about, but the actual owner of the fonts. That's who is going to come after you for copyright infringement.
csinchok 14y ago
I get that this was rushed, etc. But it's not like you did a soft launch to test this thing out, or that you're on some kind of deadline here. You built the site lazily and rudely (in my opinion), and then immediately began promotion of it. Also, you state that you only spent a few hours, and that "most of that time was spent playing with caching and deployment". If you were spending time making sure that the site was cached and performant, it seems less like the hotlinking was an oversight, and more like it was something you just didn't care about. If you would have taken another few hours, made sure that your ducks were in a row, and THEN began promoting it, you'd be in much better shape right now, and I wouldn't be commenting here. As for the circles, if you don't know anyone on the dev team, why are you repeatedly claiming to have a tacit OK from us? As to the fonts, I want to be clear: your current use of the fonts is infringement. We have paid to license those fonts for use on our site. You have not done this, and so you're now infringing--not against us, but against the owners of those fonts. We're not going to come after you, I'd bet that someone will (eventually). To summarize my position again: I'm not at all a fan of how you went about doing this, but it's honestly not a huge deal—just a bit rude.
- slifty 14y ago
  Well it sounds like at this point an apology is the best I can offer, as what is done is done -- Sorry! If you or anyone on your team is ever in Boston I'll gladly buy you a beer!
  - deelowe 14y ago
    You might want to at least fix the font thing. Sounds like you could get in a lot of trouble.
    - slifty 14y ago
      I'll be looking into it -- if it is copyright infringement I believe this is fair use (parody, non-profit, academic, etc.). If it isn't fair use than this is actually a really interesting part of copyright law (e.g. using a premium font will make it more difficult for others to perform satire on your work).
      - deelowe 14y ago
        I'm not a lawyer but I think it only would be parody if you were parodying the font itself. As the onion guys said, they had to license it.
        slifty 14y ago
        It is totally possible! Anyway, fonts have been removed in the name of being on the safe side.
18pfsmt 14y ago
I'm sorry, but as an actual member of this community, I find your objections a bit ridiculous. I, personally, keep everything I do on my local network, but I like it when people do these "Show HN" pieces. It's almost as if you are personally paying out for the extra bandwidth this little project has caused for The Onion. This is not a commercial project, and most of the HN community is just messing around with tech to see how it works. Sometimes, people have the balls to show others, and I appreciate it. What I don't really care for is people who sign up and bitch about the derivative products of others on the basis of Intellectual Property. My advice: Just ignore HN P.S. I will help to compensate you for any personal financial hit you take.

by slifty 14y ago

sp332 14y ago

Regarding fonts: it's not the Onion you really have to worry about, but the actual owner of the fonts. That's who is going to come after you for copyright infringement.

csinchok 14y ago

I get that this was rushed, etc. But it's not like you did a soft launch to test this thing out, or that you're on some kind of deadline here. You built the site lazily and rudely (in my opinion), and then immediately began promotion of it. Also, you state that you only spent a few hours, and that "most of that time was spent playing with caching and deployment". If you were spending time making sure that the site was cached and performant, it seems less like the hotlinking was an oversight, and more like it was something you just didn't care about. If you would have taken another few hours, made sure that your ducks were in a row, and THEN began promoting it, you'd be in much better shape right now, and I wouldn't be commenting here. As for the circles, if you don't know anyone on the dev team, why are you repeatedly claiming to have a tacit OK from us? As to the fonts, I want to be clear: your current use of the fonts is infringement. We have paid to license those fonts for use on our site. You have not done this, and so you're now infringing--not against us, but against the owners of those fonts. We're not going to come after you, I'd bet that someone will (eventually). To summarize my position again: I'm not at all a fan of how you went about doing this, but it's honestly not a huge deal—just a bit rude.

slifty 14y ago
Well it sounds like at this point an apology is the best I can offer, as what is done is done -- Sorry! If you or anyone on your team is ever in Boston I'll gladly buy you a beer!
- deelowe 14y ago
  You might want to at least fix the font thing. Sounds like you could get in a lot of trouble.
  - slifty 14y ago
    I'll be looking into it -- if it is copyright infringement I believe this is fair use (parody, non-profit, academic, etc.). If it isn't fair use than this is actually a really interesting part of copyright law (e.g. using a premium font will make it more difficult for others to perform satire on your work).
    - deelowe 14y ago
      I'm not a lawyer but I think it only would be parody if you were parodying the font itself. As the onion guys said, they had to license it.
      - slifty 14y ago
        It is totally possible! Anyway, fonts have been removed in the name of being on the safe side.

18pfsmt 14y ago

I'm sorry, but as an actual member of this community, I find your objections a bit ridiculous. I, personally, keep everything I do on my local network, but I like it when people do these "Show HN" pieces. It's almost as if you are personally paying out for the extra bandwidth this little project has caused for The Onion. This is not a commercial project, and most of the HN community is just messing around with tech to see how it works. Sometimes, people have the balls to show others, and I appreciate it. What I don't really care for is people who sign up and bitch about the derivative products of others on the basis of Intellectual Property. My advice: Just ignore HN P.S. I will help to compensate you for any personal financial hit you take.