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Nope. I have never used or dealt in drugs. Nor do I plan to. How about you?
by newt0311 18y ago
Nope. I have never used or dealt in drugs. Nor do I plan to. How about you?
- ajkirwin 18y agoCaffeine? Tobacco? Alcohol?
- arundelo 18y agoAspirin?
- newt0311 18y agoUm... All those are legal. Also, the first and third have known beneficial medical effects which would still be allowed if my proposal is enacted.
- unalone 18y agoSo in other words, you're persecuting people not based on whether they've done good or not, but based on whether they're obeying drug laws that were often as not passed for political gain? Isn't that a despicable reason to demand somebody's death?
- ajkirwin 18y agoAlso, what the fuck is the medical benefit of vodka?
- pg 18y agoAlcohol (in small quantities, like 1 drink a day) seems to be associated with lower risk of heart disease, for men.
- ivankirigin 18y agoA recent study showed the benefits of red wine were linked to breaking down some of the worse components in red meat. It just happens consumption of both are so correlated that it looked like red wine in moderation was really healthy. The healthiest choice would be to drink tea and avoid red meat. But what kind of a pansy wants to do that?!
- pg 18y agoI actually read a study saying that mere alcohol had benefits, regardless of the form. Where is rms when you need him?
- rms 18y agoThat does seem to be a common meme. Here's an unsourced article claiming various benefits. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21778634/ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21778634/ The American Heart Association, however, recommends against starting to drink to be healthier. http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4422 http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4422 While light alcohol consumption does have small benefits, you could make a much, much bigger difference in your overall health by exercising and following a healthy diet. One drink a day probably does have marginal benefits, but from a public health perspective I can see why organizations don't actually recommend it -- people in the aggregate would think it is more meaningful as a recommendation than it actually is and use it as an excuse to drink to excess. One thing to keep your eye on is Sirtris Pharmaceuticals's (now a subsidiary of GSK) amped-up resveratrol (the good stuff in red wine) derivative. The idea is to get the benefit of drinking 1000 glasses of red wine a day without actually killing yourself. It will be approved for treating diabetes but will be of interest to absolutely everyone that can afford it. http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSN0743693420080108 http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSN0743693420080...
- chris11 18y agoI've always been under the impression that you can get the health benefits from wine without drinking alcohol. Resveratrol is found naturally in foods like grapes and peanuts. So you won't be missing out on any health benefits if you don't drink. Resveratrol Concentrations:http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/resveratrol/#sources http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/resvera...
- ajkirwin 18y agoJust red wine and only in some circumstances, pg. There's no medical benefit to vodka, whisky, rum, absinthe, peppermint liquer, beer, jagermeister, goldschlager, etc etc etc.
- gacek 18y agoI would love to read some study that would investigate the connection between one joint a day with heart disease.
- rms 18y agoMost of the studies about this kind of thing get messed up because they are studying it with smoked marijuana. Let's assume that such a study uses vaporized or oral cannabis. I would be surprised to see reduced heart disease as a result of cannabis consumption but I would expect to see reduced cancer of some forms and lower rates of Alzheimer's.
- arjunb 18y agohttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4417261.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4417261.stm Seems to indicate that THC stops inflammation of blood vessels by suppressing the immune system's response. Also seems that oral delivery was used vs. smoking.
- jonknee 18y agoKnown medical effects has no bearing on the legality of drugs. Cocaine and heroin have known medical uses and are even currently used for medicine. Same with Cannabis. Another check in the medical use department for MDMA (ecstasy). Even meth has legitimate medical uses. Curiously, many illegal drugs are just (if not more) effective than their patented prescription drug counterparts. You want to kill people who buy heroin, but governments spend billions buying synthetic heroin for their citizens. It's madness. If the government mobilizes to kill millions of its citizens, how are you confident that the line will be drawn at the point you think is acceptable? (Why we should let you set the line is another debate, but luckily you aren't in a position of power.) Perhaps there's someone else like you, but who takes it a step farther and believes something you do and don't think is immoral should be a capital offense. Your wanting to kill pot smokers is no more crazy than me wanting to kill coffee drinkers.
- moe 18y agoYep actually I have. Not professionally but among friends. Seems like a strong opinion to have about something that you have zero expirience with, no?
- randallsquared 18y agoThat's not a good tack. I have strong opinions about murder, though I've never been involved in a murder.
- jonknee 18y agoDrugs aren't in the same category as murder (or any violence). Most obviously, they are personal. Drugs don't bust into your house at night and kill you. We don't [typically] see suicide as a crime because of that even though the result is the same.
- whughes 18y agoDrugs are not completely personal. Depending on drug and supply chain, we are also talking about drug gang activity, drug-fueled economies in the developing world, social problems related to drug abuse, and so on. If you grow a harmless drug on your own or get it from a harmless source, you're probably okay, but let's not fool ourselves into thinking that drugs are completely down to the individual.
- jonknee 18y agoProhibition causes most of the troubles though (especially cartel violence). And I think the social aspects of any increased addiction rates would be more than offset by not imprisoning hundreds of thousands annually on drug charges. It's vastly cheaper to subsidize rehab for the relatively small number of actual addicts than it is to pay to arrest and process a million people a year. Not to mention the effect on GDP of the lost production from all the incarcerated people.
- pstuart 18y agoI'm curious, who else do you want to shoot?
- newt0311 18y agoLets see... We start with murderers. Then move on to rapists. All violent gang members and those involved in organized crime (this should be handled by a quasi-military organization). Anybody convicted of serious assault. Ie. permanent injury etc... Need I go on or is this enough?