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What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world? Even in the Russia/Ukraine conflict they use Telegram for basic operations. All chat app

What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world? Even in the Russia/Ukraine conflict they use Telegram for basic operations. All chat applications are dual-use.

kryogen1c 5d ago
> What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world? I have no idea, but Im certain that twitter recordings do not put frontline forces in disarray. > use Telegram for basic operations an encrypted private communication channel is very different than public social media
- bpodgursky 5d ago
  You have far, far too much faith in the professionalism of armed forces in the developing world. 99% of it is just random 22 year old guys with guns and dual-use communication tech.
  - kryogen1c 5d ago
    > too much faith in the professionalism I dont know that its a matter of professionalism. Everyone in the world has known that AI can generate video and audio that is imperceptibly fake, for years. And thats to say nothing of man-made forgeries in the years prior. I have a hard time seeing people on the front line throwing down arms and running away because of an unsourced twitter clip.
    - fluffybucktsnek 5d ago
      We, as in the terminally online, have known that AI can generate imperceptibly fake footage. There are still plenty of average people who still gets caught off guard.
      - robocat 4d ago
        Yeah, and adverts only work on other people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_effect Fortunately I'm from Wobegon and I'm above average: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wobegon#The_Lake_Wobegon_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wobegon#The_Lake_Wobegon_...
    - bpodgursky 5d ago
      You gotta touch grass and get outside and talk to normies. And then recognize that the normies you talk to are VASTLY MORE internet-savvy than the illiterate child soldiers on the front lines in Yemen. You have no concept of the info environment they live in. It is all magic electronic soup.
- IAmBroom 5d ago
  > > What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world? > I have no idea, but Im certain that twitter recordings do not put frontline forces in disarray. And yet as a counterexample: reality.
- prmoustache 5d ago
  Last time I checked, group chats in Telegram weren't e2ee.
londons_explore 5d ago
And most chat apps are either e2e encrypted or HTTPS, both of which are hard to break for third world nations. But leaks of those messages onto twitter are probably the most valuable info source for what the enemy is doing.
SoftTalker 5d ago
Third world? Have we forgotten the Pete Hegseth Signal fiasco?
- throwaway85825 5d ago
  The ship of state is the only vessel that leaks from the top.

What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world? Even in the Russia/Ukraine conflict they use Telegram for basic operations. All chat applications are dual-use.

kryogen1c 5d ago

> What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world? I have no idea, but Im certain that twitter recordings do not put frontline forces in disarray. > use Telegram for basic operations an encrypted private communication channel is very different than public social media

bpodgursky 5d ago
You have far, far too much faith in the professionalism of armed forces in the developing world. 99% of it is just random 22 year old guys with guns and dual-use communication tech.
- kryogen1c 5d ago
  > too much faith in the professionalism I dont know that its a matter of professionalism. Everyone in the world has known that AI can generate video and audio that is imperceptibly fake, for years. And thats to say nothing of man-made forgeries in the years prior. I have a hard time seeing people on the front line throwing down arms and running away because of an unsourced twitter clip.
  - fluffybucktsnek 5d ago
    We, as in the terminally online, have known that AI can generate imperceptibly fake footage. There are still plenty of average people who still gets caught off guard.
    - robocat 4d ago
      Yeah, and adverts only work on other people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_effect Fortunately I'm from Wobegon and I'm above average: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wobegon#The_Lake_Wobegon_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Wobegon#The_Lake_Wobegon_...
  - bpodgursky 5d ago
    You gotta touch grass and get outside and talk to normies. And then recognize that the normies you talk to are VASTLY MORE internet-savvy than the illiterate child soldiers on the front lines in Yemen. You have no concept of the info environment they live in. It is all magic electronic soup.
IAmBroom 5d ago
> > What do you think the chain of command looks like in the third world? > I have no idea, but Im certain that twitter recordings do not put frontline forces in disarray. And yet as a counterexample: reality.
prmoustache 5d ago
Last time I checked, group chats in Telegram weren't e2ee.

londons_explore 5d ago

And most chat apps are either e2e encrypted or HTTPS, both of which are hard to break for third world nations. But leaks of those messages onto twitter are probably the most valuable info source for what the enemy is doing.

SoftTalker 5d ago

Third world? Have we forgotten the Pete Hegseth Signal fiasco?

throwaway85825 5d ago
The ship of state is the only vessel that leaks from the top.