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At some point they might prefer stability and sanity. I would bet that at this point they don't care much either way. China is playing long, most of the ~uncha
by kadoban 5d ago
At some point they might prefer stability and sanity. I would bet that at this point they don't care much either way.
China is playing long, most of the ~unchanging things are in their favor and the US already proved that they're unreliable. People won't forget that soon even if Trump is gone.
- LarsKrimi 5d agoStability and sanity is not happening whether the conflicts stop in Yemen+Hormuz or not. At that point it's just going to go back to tarriff wars and new terror campaigns that the US admin will start somewhere else
- kadoban 5d agoThe context of this is which party China would prefer to win the midterms. The dems winning would distract Trump from being able to fuck up the rest of the world a bit. My bet would be that China doesn't care much either way, they win regardless.
- LarsKrimi 5d agoWe agree that China won't care long term. They cannot lose in the current setup In my view the worst that can happen for China is that Trump gets limited by anything. He's hurting US relations more than he's hurting China short or long-term. Relations take longer to build than trade "Don't interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake"
- kadoban 5d ago> "Don't interrupt your opponent when they're making a mistake" Yeah, that's the obvious answer, but I suspect there's a point where if the US fucks things up too quickly and too messily, there's fewer customers for China's crap and/or the random throws of monkey shit drag China into messes they don't feel like dealing with. Slow erosion of the US's global power is likely better for them than an implosion that might cause collatoral damage.
- LarsKrimi 5d agoI'm curious what you think that may be. The situation you're imagining is one of a global all encompassing depression caused by a single government. Not unthinkable, but the Americans would feel that deeply. Do you think they want to?
- kadoban 5d ago> The situation you're imagining is one of a global all encompassing depression caused by a single government. Doesn't even have to go that far (though it pretty easily can, the US is a big enough market). If the US causes a refugee crisis that affects one of China's allies, or fucks with the global oil supply enough or a thousand other things, that stuff is still annoying to China even if it's usually relatively better for them than it is for the US. > Not unthinkable, but the Americans would feel that deeply. Do you think they want to? The people in the US choosing do not care if the rest of America feels it or not.
- TitaRusell 4d agoGermans didn't want Stalingrad yet it happened.