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This is a bunch of drama that's so easy to ignore. Publishing this article is just drawing more people to Omarchy. I don't know anything about it and don't care

by bakies 5d ago

This is a bunch of drama that's so easy to ignore. Publishing this article is just drawing more people to Omarchy. I don't know anything about it and don't care for yet-another-linux-distro-that-does-whatever. It'll eventually settle outside the big three like all other distros.

stryan 5d ago
It was easy to ignore before it "raised" around 15 million dollars. That's a lot of money to be throwing around a mostly-donation based ecosystem. I'm already seeing discussions on the mise[0] Github discussions about Omarchy specific changes and designs. I'm not saying anything about these specific changes and they seem mostly distro-agnostic for now, but it goes to show how it can affect other distros/software even if you don't use it. [0] mise is being sponsored by the Omacon foundation, which is what all this money is technically going to. It also happens to be the only "independent" tool being sponsored by the foundation, as the hyperland dev is essentially contracted by them and the QuickShell dev was hired by DHH.
- bakies 5d ago
  It's easy to ignore now. Are the changes Omarchy specific or distro-agnostic? You say both. I don't even know what hyperland and quickshell are. I don't use mise because it seems to solve problems I solve with containers.
  - stryan 5d ago
    > Are the changes Omarchy specific or distro-agnostic? You say both. The changes are specifically for Omarchy. They just happen to still be distro-agnostic. There is no guarantee this continues in the future. The discussions: Using managed tool-stub bundles for Omarchy’s lazy CLI layer: https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/12597 https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/12597 Proposal: give every Omarchy user a declarative "my machine" file with mise bootstrap: https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/12709 https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/12709 Proposal: give Omarchy dotfiles automatic history, easy restore, and optional sync with mise: https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/13022 https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/13022 > I don't even know what hyperland and quickshell are. I don't use mise because it seems to solve problems I solve with containers. Okay? Your lack of awareness of the tools does not change the fact that 15 millions dollars that is supposed to "support the linux desktop", but right now is mostly funding its own distro.
    - bakies 5d ago
      Seems like a waste on these tools anyway
    - machomaster 4d ago
      > 15 millions dollars that is supposed to "support the linux desktop", but right now is mostly funding its own distro. There is no general destination to support Linux Desktop. Linux Foundation is not that, in addition to having more money than they need, and spending less than 5% of their budget on actual kernel. The only way to support Linux and its desktop is to support individual project. Be they separate or part of some distro. That's the beauty of Linux and open-source - all the features and efforts are dynamically leaking elsewhere in the ecosystem. DHH never promised to support outside projects. Omarchy Foundation is supposed to support Linux via developing Omarchy, putting all the money there, not by having a tax-evation foundation with high-paid executives, distributing a tiny percentage of the budget to some general unmeasurable cause. Hence why DHH supports Hyprland and not Niri. He said that directly.

by bakies 5d ago

stryan 5d ago

It was easy to ignore before it "raised" around 15 million dollars. That's a lot of money to be throwing around a mostly-donation based ecosystem. I'm already seeing discussions on the mise[0] Github discussions about Omarchy specific changes and designs. I'm not saying anything about these specific changes and they seem mostly distro-agnostic for now, but it goes to show how it can affect other distros/software even if you don't use it. [0] mise is being sponsored by the Omacon foundation, which is what all this money is technically going to. It also happens to be the only "independent" tool being sponsored by the foundation, as the hyperland dev is essentially contracted by them and the QuickShell dev was hired by DHH.

bakies 5d ago
It's easy to ignore now. Are the changes Omarchy specific or distro-agnostic? You say both. I don't even know what hyperland and quickshell are. I don't use mise because it seems to solve problems I solve with containers.
- stryan 5d ago
  > Are the changes Omarchy specific or distro-agnostic? You say both. The changes are specifically for Omarchy. They just happen to still be distro-agnostic. There is no guarantee this continues in the future. The discussions: Using managed tool-stub bundles for Omarchy’s lazy CLI layer: https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/12597 https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/12597 Proposal: give every Omarchy user a declarative "my machine" file with mise bootstrap: https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/12709 https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/12709 Proposal: give Omarchy dotfiles automatic history, easy restore, and optional sync with mise: https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/13022 https://github.com/jdx/mise/discussions/13022 > I don't even know what hyperland and quickshell are. I don't use mise because it seems to solve problems I solve with containers. Okay? Your lack of awareness of the tools does not change the fact that 15 millions dollars that is supposed to "support the linux desktop", but right now is mostly funding its own distro.
  - bakies 5d ago
    Seems like a waste on these tools anyway
  - machomaster 4d ago
    > 15 millions dollars that is supposed to "support the linux desktop", but right now is mostly funding its own distro. There is no general destination to support Linux Desktop. Linux Foundation is not that, in addition to having more money than they need, and spending less than 5% of their budget on actual kernel. The only way to support Linux and its desktop is to support individual project. Be they separate or part of some distro. That's the beauty of Linux and open-source - all the features and efforts are dynamically leaking elsewhere in the ecosystem. DHH never promised to support outside projects. Omarchy Foundation is supposed to support Linux via developing Omarchy, putting all the money there, not by having a tax-evation foundation with high-paid executives, distributing a tiny percentage of the budget to some general unmeasurable cause. Hence why DHH supports Hyprland and not Niri. He said that directly.