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This comment was perhaps written by an LLM that has learned it can karma farm by pointing out all of the articles that have LLM usage while everyone still think
by mobilejdral 8d ago
This comment was perhaps written by an LLM that has learned it can karma farm by pointing out all of the articles that have LLM usage while everyone still thinks that is a novel contribution.
- throwawaysleep 8d agoPeople aren't treating it as a thoughtful contribution. It is more of a flag, like "spam".
- cj 8d agoHN already has a feature for that. Just flag the article!
- happytoexplain 8d agoI appreciate when people write things like, "this is an advertisement for the author's product, X." Why stay silent? If the commenter's accusation smells fishy, I'll read the article myself. Otherwise, they helped me.
- cj 8d agoTo me, it’s the equivalent of “HN is turning into Reddit” - it’s just a complaint without adding to the discussion.
- fidotron 8d agoIn the spirit of the "That's what she said" bot, you could train an LLM detector by accusing everything of being authored by an LLM and seeing which ones get voted up.
- meowface 8d agoIf you check my comment history here, I have not written this before. I like LLMs and use them daily, but I don't really like when people use them undisclosed for long-form prose writing.
- teiferer 8d agoMe neither, but just running around accusing random folks of things is not going to help. To the contrary. If a real author doing real work with a lot of effort risks being accused of things they didn't do and just dismissed, you'll get less of genuine content, not more.
- meowface 8d agoI will donate $100 to charity if I made a false accusation. (It's possible AI rewrote an article first written by a human here or whatever, but the point is that I can just tell this is mostly or entirely LLM output.)
- teiferer 8d ago> I will donate $100 to charity if I made a false accusation That's honorable but not how accusations work. There is a first level indirect effect of painting somebody in a light that damages the reputation of their work or their person which isn't reversed by a donation or a sorry or anything since retractions/corrections/apologies don't get the same public attention. And there is a broader effect of chilling what people do since they don't want to get falsely accused. I'd recommend keeping such suspicions to oneself unless there is unrefutable proof, and if there is, then please provide it.
- done_lurking 7d agoIt does help, if the accusation is true. The fact that false accusations result in less genuine content implies that true accusations result in less disingenuous content. For better or for worse, social consequences do affect people's behavior on average.
- teiferer 7d agoAll true. But question is whether the positive consequences outweigh the negative. That may be the case, but it may not be. I don't find it obvious and not considering this is careless.
- happytoexplain 8d ago"Novel" is not a prerequisite for something to be worth pointing out. Lots of bad things happen repeatedly, and don't quickly become not worth caring about or knowing about. People have strong spirits and curious minds and it tends to take a long time to boil that frog out of them - generations, sometimes.