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GPT‑Live‑1 in the API
- loloisi 8d agoand yet another showcase of making automated restaurant reservations. It truly is the purpose of AGI, and all software ever, really, to automate that experience. It baffles me that the labs can't come up with more exciting use cases for voice api.
- _pdp_ 8d agoSo true. The real use-case outside of the 2-3 specialised domains are yet to come... if they come at all.
- average_r_user 8d agoClient-side reservations are one of those features that looked like the future when Google showed them on Pixel. Years later, I'm still waiting for the iOS ecosystem to catch up
- mesmertech 8d agohopefully this come in openrouter api cause I'm not signing up for a specific provider's specific api platform, and have yet another thing that can bill me.
- _pdp_ 8d agoThey wont. This is OpenAI specific. They don't even have support for OpenAI realtime models. However, this open source project https://github.com/chatbotkit/platform/ https://github.com/chatbotkit/platform/ does and you can plug OpenRouter or OpenAI keys straight in while keeping your integration work generic. The only downside is hosting it yourself but it is just docker compose up.
- muddi900 8d agoThe worst use case to show this.
- jjhfarmer 8d agoTheir use-cases for the recent 'Images' release were also terrible.
- sebzim4500 8d agoI think their 'images' use cases were pretty representative of what normies use it for. Honestly though they need to hire whoever did those Google ads back in the day.
- dbbk 8d agoI've been waiting for this! I'm learning Spanish so I built an app to teach me Spanish, but hyperfocused on scenarios in my life, for example "watching a Barça match in a Barcelona bar". It does FSRS flashcard training, and live conversation practice. I think education is a very underexplored area for these live conversation models. Yes you can just use ChatGPT Live but that's freeform and unstructured, doesn't have a curriculum or can present supporting visuals, etc. On a grand scale if you can give children their own personal individual tutor rather than relying on group teaching alone, there could be a huge jump in successful education outcomes.
- adityashankar 8d agoOh yeah, I built so much stuff to learn German, for example [1] to give me random German texts, force me to read it, and answer it, I created [2] to automatically make flashcards for me and then use with with a flashcards app I regularly use and [3] to help me memorise German cases and word-genders. I love it! I did think of implementing this conversationally, but tbh it has always been too expensive thus far, I gotta retry with GPT-live-1, I tried it with elevenlabs before but it wasn't live enough and the models were not intelligent enough. [1] https://river.berlin/projects/german-learning-helper/ https://river.berlin/projects/german-learning-helper/ [2] https://river.berlin/projects/flashcard-generator/ https://river.berlin/projects/flashcard-generator/ [3] https://river.berlin/projects/german-cases-trainer/ https://river.berlin/projects/german-cases-trainer/
- dbbk 8d agoYeah my current approach till now has been ElevenLabs Scribe v2 transcription, then feed that to Gemini Live. The latency isn't too bad, but it's definitely there. When you use ChatGPT Live it's instant which is great, although the realtime transcription still kinda sucks, especially if you're a newcomer to the language so you're making mistakes. I'll constantly get responses to something it thinks I said but I didn't say, which is a real hard blocker for a language learning app. I think what I'll land on is Scribe v2 (the full thing, not realtime) transcribing turns - it is exceptionally accurate for this - and then just feeding that text direct to GPT Live.
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- idiliv 8d agoAll voices offered sound human. I'd prefer a robotic voice, to avoid over-anthropomorphizing the AI.
- thiago_fm 8d agoDamn, this was a terrible showcase of their voice API, I really love their product. It's the fucking best, a life changer. But... what a meh showcase. Is somebody from OpenAI hiring? I can show how I use it to learn German, among other very interesting usages. Also show proper excitement etc... I think also a lot of real users could do better. It feels like they aren't real users of their own products...
- dbbk 8d agoThey mention Speak in the blog post but don't show their demo. On Speak's blog post, that demo is way better: https://www.speak.com/blog/live-tutor-lessons-powered-by-openais-gpt-live-1 https://www.speak.com/blog/live-tutor-lessons-powered-by-ope...
- gunalx 8d agoCan't wait till a customer rep is impossible to get to because all support is outsourced to ai.
- dbbk 8d agoI'm not so sure, I think it could go the other way. The vast majority of support cases should be handled in an automated way. I had an issue with Vercel recently where I argued that a bill was incorrect, and the agent produced and offered a refund by itself - that was interesting. You obviously need humans but they can be freed up to deal with the more complicated cases.
- oefrha 8d ago> You obviously need humans Try to contact Anthropic or Google support, they clearly don’t think so.
- nozzlegear 8d agoRelevant video, just make them say oink: https://youtu.be/fhi6JU5pOJk https://youtu.be/fhi6JU5pOJk
- almogo 8d agoEven as someone really AI-forwards, there are just not enough selling points for me here. I almost never want to talk to an AI. I just don’t believe I’ll have a useful voice interaction. Maybe agents are here to fix that, but theres 30 years of really negative precedent from robot telephone bots to overcome, and I don’t think some new API is going to change that overnight
- Razengan 8d agoI talk to AI sometimes to tell me a bedtime story as I'm trying to fall asleep
- algoth1 8d agoI can’t tell if you are being serious or sarcastic. Assuming you are being real, and as someone who has to listen to boring youtube videos to help falling asleep, i have a few questions: how long is the story? What happens after the story ends? Like, does it turn off the voice feature or does it stay on and randomly speaks during the night?
- Razengan 7d agohah I just tried it a few times. You have to choose a voice you like (Spruce for me) and then tell it continue a scene or chapter from one of your favorite books Like for me it's the part in The Wind in the Willows where they're on the cart, before Toad becomes a car fanboy. I asked ChatGPT to stretch that part and make them stay on the road for longer, and it kinda did an OK job tbh
- whazor 8d agoThis voice model can do tool calling. So as long you give it powerful tools, I believe it to be useful.
- ACCount37 8d agoI almost never want to talk to an AI, because text is better for almost anything. But it's nice to have that "almost" corner case covered, no? Not to mention all the current "telephone bots" applications that could benefit from something that has actual reliable STT and can accurately grasp a number you tell it first try, or hear a natural language description of what you want and immediately bypass listing the entire menu of options one by one.
- Lucasoato 8d agoI've given a try to the demo in the webpage. I've asked to tell me which of the first generation pokemon started with the letter C, requesting it to tell me their names in reverse. It got stuck. I don't know if they are having some troubles with their demo environment due to the volume of requests in this specific moment, but I'm very hesitant to put something like this in production if it fails with this trivial example.
- ndom91 8d agoBeen wanting to try this out on top of https://github.com/TristanBrotherton/voicepe-realtime https://github.com/TristanBrotherton/voicepe-realtime with the HomeAssistant VoicePE Anyone else hack something together with HA / the Voice PE yet? Looks like it needs a second model to do function calling, which gpt-realtime-2.5 didn't, and the Voice PE XMOS chip's audio pipeline might not be a great fit for full duplex back and forth, like what gpt-live-1 now supports.
- agentdev001 8d agoReposting my comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49646963 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49646963 Congrats on the launch here. I've been messing with this over the last few hours- super super cool. I was excitedly awaiting this hitting the API, because ofc there wasn't a super high fidelity option for drop-in voice interface in front of a given harness. This is blowing me away so far! (Side q, is there a single place one can watch for updates on the API- that actually covers everything that changes? IIRC there have been a couple of additions that you've tweeted- but never hit the API changelog ;] )
- agentdev001 8d agoAnd replying with some more thoughts after reading the comments here. To me, this feels similar to when models started passing the line of (imo) "good enough" to start building much more capable agents. The release of this (gpt-live-1) in the app felt like a big jump in capability, and now that this is available on the api- and I've tried it, it really feels like something big is unlocked for devs. Using this as the UI for a harness feels good so far, and its very much just plug and play. I would encourage others to throw their coding agent of choice at the docs- and have it spin up a web page that puts this infront of a capable harness; it feels 1:1 with the current voice mode in the OAI app(s), and you can define the tool surface yourself. Its really cool.
- kailpa1 8d agoI think that this could be useful for the case of learning something by teaching it to someone else, and this someone else being the AI. We all know that learning-by-teaching is a great way to see the gaps in your knowledge and check whether you can explain the topic simple enough for the "student" to understand it. But finding the "student" is the hard thing in this process. Replacing the student with this model, and maybe a better reasoning model behind, sounds like a good enough replacement of a real person, for this case.
- kailpa1 8d agoNot sure whether the latency between your last sentence and follow-up question from the AI would be small enough for it to not be intrusive. As another user noted in a comment, that it takes time for the conversational model to call a more powerful sub-agent that evaluates your explanation and returns follow-up questions. Another question is: can the model interrupt you and ask questions right away? What if you're incorrectly defining something and then building up on it? Would the model interrupt you right after the incorrect definition or after you've already finished your explanation?
- embedding-shape 8d ago> Reasoning & tool calling delegation: GPT‑Live‑1 can delegate reasoning and tool calls to a backend text model like GPT‑6 Astra or a third-party model. I played around a bit with this in Codex when it became available but even when you have Fast mode + Light reasoning, the mere idea that it passes off actual work to background sessions even for "change this line here" makes it a really frustrating experience. You can say "Update config here" then wait 2 minutes then finally it comes back, and most of those two minutes was overhead of agent<>sub-agent communication and passing the work, instead of just, you know, do the thing. I'm eagerly awaiting for this to get ready though, because being able to use tools like Houdini, Unreal Engine and Blender over MCP with this fast voice mode makes for great video game development environment, where you can playtest the game and talk with Codex at the same time, asking it to update stuff on the fly, granted you've setup things correctly.
- dist-epoch 8d agoI used it in a similar way, and once you get it going, it's much faster, since it can reuse the background agent which now has a primed context. I got 30 sec turn around times. And you can talk about the next change while the previous one is being implemented.
- embedding-shape 8d ago> I got 30 sec turn around times. For a single line change that could be completed in maybe 10 seconds if the agent didn't do the whole communication overhead dance, half a minute is a long time to sit and wait during playtesting to just update some parameter. > And you can talk about the next change while the previous one is being implemented. Yeaah, that's not how I work with agents in general, we work on one thing, do it properly and then clean up, then refactor, then testing, more refactor and so on, until a thing is 100% nailed down and properly implemented and then move on. I don't know how people can work on multiple things at the same time, unless they're really simple tasks or small projects. But almost nothing in medium/long-term game development is that simple.
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- varispeed 8d agoCan it infer someone's accent and correct it or tone of the voice or whether someone is talking in a mocking way? If not, then it's seems not there yet.