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I don't get it. Surely if you were developing novel biological weapons, you would not use a hosted AI service where Anthropic can read what you are doing. And,

by Stevvo 7d ago

I don't get it. Surely if you were developing novel biological weapons, you would not use a hosted AI service where Anthropic can read what you are doing. And, why would you need to? Any chemistry graduate could make you dozens of highly effective, proven chemical weapons and explosives.

Molitor5901 7d ago
This was my thought. Anyone who has taken secondary biology or chemistry possesses the knowledge, if not at least the ability to find the knowledge, to build all sorts of nasty things. Soil from a farm on slices of potato could yield anthrax spores, this is not specialized or even esoteric knowledge. This news from Anthropic just does not seem as spectacular as I think they might want us to believe, if anything it draws questions around having an AI that cannot be monitored.
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nullbio 7d ago
Step 1: Work for Anthropic Step 2: Send "how do I make a nuke and a killer virus" to Claude through a Chinese proxy to Claude Step 3: Send screenshots to congress and ask them to regulate open-weight models into the ground
woctordho 7d ago
Let me put my two cents: In China we've got accustomed to the fact that every word we say will be seen by the surveillance, so it's not a big problem that Anthropic also see it. Also we know that they can see it but they can't stop it. There are all kinds of ways to work around account blocking. As the old saying goes, communists disdain to conceal their views and aims.
torginus 5d ago
There is no end to the stupid nowadays. I remember OpenAI tweeting to about heads of state asking ChatGPT on policy decisions. There were stories about young hackers using Discord to coordinate attacks. Multiple military installations and an aircraft carrier was identified by smart fitness watches. At least on Russian general was killed by Ukrainian assassins tracking him via his smartwatch.

by Stevvo 7d ago

Molitor5901 7d ago

This was my thought. Anyone who has taken secondary biology or chemistry possesses the knowledge, if not at least the ability to find the knowledge, to build all sorts of nasty things. Soil from a farm on slices of potato could yield anthrax spores, this is not specialized or even esoteric knowledge. This news from Anthropic just does not seem as spectacular as I think they might want us to believe, if anything it draws questions around having an AI that cannot be monitored.

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nullbio 7d ago

Step 1: Work for Anthropic Step 2: Send "how do I make a nuke and a killer virus" to Claude through a Chinese proxy to Claude Step 3: Send screenshots to congress and ask them to regulate open-weight models into the ground

woctordho 7d ago

Let me put my two cents: In China we've got accustomed to the fact that every word we say will be seen by the surveillance, so it's not a big problem that Anthropic also see it. Also we know that they can see it but they can't stop it. There are all kinds of ways to work around account blocking. As the old saying goes, communists disdain to conceal their views and aims.

torginus 5d ago

There is no end to the stupid nowadays. I remember OpenAI tweeting to about heads of state asking ChatGPT on policy decisions. There were stories about young hackers using Discord to coordinate attacks. Multiple military installations and an aircraft carrier was identified by smart fitness watches. At least on Russian general was killed by Ukrainian assassins tracking him via his smartwatch.