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Americans do not care about biklanes or modifying their cities in that way, they want driverless cars and more large multilane highways/roads so that's what we

Americans do not care about biklanes or modifying their cities in that way, they want driverless cars and more large multilane highways/roads so that's what we will get. Americans don't like walking/biking and love cars. It's not really learned helplessness it's just what the vast majority of our country wants. Remember the majority voters voted someone in who specifically campaigned on getting out of any climate change agreements and to bring back coal mining.

llbeansandrice 6d ago
Then why is Amtrak breaking ridership records?
- PorciiVorbesc 6d ago
  People are poor because of the economy and gave up on their car loans?
  - llbeansandrice 6d ago
    So you agree there should be more options besides cars?
    - PorciiVorbesc 5d ago
      Yes, I was never against that. I initially argued/asked where do you get the money to implement it if the city is broke? And until that is solved decades from now maybe, how should people get to work without their cars?
      - llbeansandrice 5d ago
        Colorado is shipping a regional rail project in the front range. Service will start in ‘29 and the district is voting on new sales tax to fund the expansions. It’s a very solvable problem. We’re also not talking about removing car infrastructure just funding a small amount of reasonable local transit. You can get quite far with Bus Rapid Transit, bike facilities, etc. The goal is to reduce the vehicle miles traveled in cars in general. Right now it’s very hard for any individual to make that choice because the transit infrastructure sucks.
        PorciiVorbesc 3d ago
        >Colorado is shipping a regional rail project in the front range. Unfortunately my city doesn't have US/Colorado money. >the district is voting on new sales tax to fund the expansion Won't more sales tax make the already poor poorer? My country already tried that and that was the effect. >It’s a very solvable problem. If you have money, everything is solvable.
- xnx 6d ago
  Losing $1.8B/year ($55/ride) isn't anything to be proud of.
  - llbeansandrice 6d ago
    Roads cost $200b a year and that doesn’t include the individual cost of owning a vehicle, fuel, insurance and maintenance. It also ignores the opportunity cost in having parking lots and land taken up by highways instead of being more economically productive in even small cities.

llbeansandrice 6d ago

Then why is Amtrak breaking ridership records?

PorciiVorbesc 6d ago
People are poor because of the economy and gave up on their car loans?
- llbeansandrice 6d ago
  So you agree there should be more options besides cars?
  - PorciiVorbesc 5d ago
    Yes, I was never against that. I initially argued/asked where do you get the money to implement it if the city is broke? And until that is solved decades from now maybe, how should people get to work without their cars?
    - llbeansandrice 5d ago
      Colorado is shipping a regional rail project in the front range. Service will start in ‘29 and the district is voting on new sales tax to fund the expansions. It’s a very solvable problem. We’re also not talking about removing car infrastructure just funding a small amount of reasonable local transit. You can get quite far with Bus Rapid Transit, bike facilities, etc. The goal is to reduce the vehicle miles traveled in cars in general. Right now it’s very hard for any individual to make that choice because the transit infrastructure sucks.
      - PorciiVorbesc 3d ago
        >Colorado is shipping a regional rail project in the front range. Unfortunately my city doesn't have US/Colorado money. >the district is voting on new sales tax to fund the expansion Won't more sales tax make the already poor poorer? My country already tried that and that was the effect. >It’s a very solvable problem. If you have money, everything is solvable.
xnx 6d ago
Losing $1.8B/year ($55/ride) isn't anything to be proud of.
- llbeansandrice 6d ago
  Roads cost $200b a year and that doesn’t include the individual cost of owning a vehicle, fuel, insurance and maintenance. It also ignores the opportunity cost in having parking lots and land taken up by highways instead of being more economically productive in even small cities.